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re: Construction Management: Industrial and Commercial

Posted on 1/24/18 at 10:06 am to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36790 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 10:06 am to
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All this is true, but don't get stuck on the mindset that you have to be a PM either. There's a lot more jobs in companies that are very lucrative and offer quick advancement.


Absolutely. I personally believe you should learn all the different jobs in a company PM/Super/Estimating/Sales even the engineering side if you have a Engineering degree and then make your choice based on what you like and which area has the best path for growth. I am pretty high up and the regional managers and Vps above me can do all areas extremely well and can go from a sales presentation with a plant manager to lower level PM work seamlessly. Its because they understand the processes and how to correctly implement a process so that you get predictable results every time.

Like JGood said, there are plenty of areas in a company that are great jobs and have very lucrative pay. The ones that are the best at their jobs are usually the ones that understand the big picture extremely well and are not scared to step outside their comfort zone.
Posted by baseballmind1212
Missouri City
Member since Feb 2011
3379 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 10:48 am to
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You forgot the actual big companies


My bad. Feel free to add on.

I'm sure you were going to post CB&I, Turner industries, etc.

I posted about what I know, regional commercial companies that take part in decent sized projects.

Sure he can look into Turner construction, Balfour Beatty, Hensel Phelps, etc. While he's at it.
Posted by dale10
The Red Stick
Member since May 2006
958 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 11:00 am to
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Experience > everything else


Drive > everything else.

I graduated in CM, and started in industrial after no internships and very limited expiernce. I busted my arse, going well over what was requested of me and it has paid off greatly.
Posted by LSUSilverfox
Member since Jun 2007
2711 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 11:15 am to
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Construction Management: Industrial and Commercial


Before reading the thread I'll suggest:
- Getting field experience.
- Don't be afraid to do actual manual labor.
- Don't expect to graduate and then immediately be a manager of anything. You're dumb, understand that, and learn from it.
Posted by MrFahrenheitDontLie
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
272 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 11:19 am to
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even if you are a helper on a turnaround.
I have a bachelor's in engineering from LSU and I am currently working as a helper on a turnaround. ????
Posted by JGood
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
795 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 11:29 am to
Better hide that phone from your foreman baw
Posted by MrFahrenheitDontLie
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
272 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 11:36 am to
In the lunch tent, so it's fine
Posted by DixonCider
H-Town
Member since Nov 2015
398 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 11:59 am to
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LSU career services puts out a survey of grads and their beginning salary, CM students are making around $60,000 coming out of college according to this years survey.


That number is fudged at best, and fraudulent in my opinion. Graduating seniors were instructed to not list their job offer if it was below $55k. Whole lot of numbers being fudged on the base salary.
Posted by DixonCider
H-Town
Member since Nov 2015
398 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 12:07 pm to
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- Don't expect to graduate and then immediately be a manager of anything. You're dumb, understand that, and learn from it.





This is one thing that you'll learn by the time you finish the curriculum. The program is great in the sense that it sets you up to make connections to find a job but I think most of the posters would agree nobody learned shite in a CM class that's helpful for a full time position.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69343 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 12:19 pm to
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I think most of the posters would agree nobody learned shite in a CM class that's helpful for a full time position.


I disagree. I found the basic P6 training, estimating knowledge, and especially the excel based stuff for the enterprise and capstone classes to be immensely valuable. I used a lot of my CM class knowledge early on in my first job.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
67798 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 12:26 pm to
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I just graduated in December



quote:

taking over all the estimating in that district


Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
67798 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 12:28 pm to
OP, if you want some experience with the industrial side, shoot me an email and we can try to work something out. Carson.TD@yahoo.com. It’s good that you’re wanting to get hands-on experience so early, because it’s all that matters and most people start too late
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36790 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 12:31 pm to
I graduated in civil and do nothing but structural steel and concrete in the industrial world so a ton of stuff i learned in school applies. But the finance class, Excell class and engineering economics have helped me the most outside of experience
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
33193 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 12:46 pm to
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I just graduated in December and interned with one of the more prevalent industrial companies in BR and I'm moving to SC and taking over all the estimating in that district


yikes
Posted by JGood
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
795 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:11 pm to
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fudged

You're pretty fudged
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:13 pm to
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I have a bachelor's in engineering from LSU and I am currently working as a helper on a turnaround. ???


what kind of engineer? something doesn't add up.
Posted by MrFahrenheitDontLie
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
272 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:23 pm to
Biological
Posted by MrFahrenheitDontLie
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
272 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:32 pm to
I don't know how a lotta y'all do it.
Posted by The Great McGinty
Member since Jan 2017
1384 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:34 pm to
Start off industrial then commercial will be a breeze!
Posted by GeauxLSU25
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2016
194 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:35 pm to
Thank you so much! Just shot you an email. Thanks to the other OTers for the helpful advice. You baws are the greatest!
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