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re: Complicated marriage/legal question involving finances
Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:00 am to TigerChick2018
Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:00 am to TigerChick2018
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Wrong. Schizophrenics do many sneaky things - including cash withdrawals, etc.
To this point-
She hasn’t been clinically diagnosed but she does have paranoia over things and I can logically see her pulling money to buy food/gas/ etc bc having cash leaves little footprints and if she is paranoid - that’s exactly why she is doing it
Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:07 am to 850SaintsGator
Again, get off this board, get on the phones with an attorney, hire a PI, and if you believe your wife is ill (whatever the cause) take proactive steps to get her committed and save your daughter.
There are no other answers to seek.
There are no other answers to seek.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:09 am to TigerChick2018
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You must dig deep and find compassion and tolerance for whatever is going on your wife and mother of your child - the woman you swore “for better or for worse” needs your help. Who will do so if you just cast her aside? How are you helping her if you make the situation worse by antagonizing her?
This hits me hard- thank you!
I know tons of ppl on here are saying “get a lawyer” etc but i swore to love her in sickness and health. - I’m not going to caste her aside during this time- especially because of our children (we have 4, three boys and one girl) need to see a loving father.
I don’t intentionally antagonize her but it happens when i don’t listen to her words (i don’t want to say demands but you get the point) or i try to point out how illogical things sound like pulling money out of the ATMs, carrying her bags in and out of the house.
Even writing this, i feel convicted to be a more loving husband and ignore her crazy shite and focus on the easiest way to get her help and it’s easier when she isn’t antagonized
Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:10 am to 850SaintsGator
Can you address your thought process of being ok with your youngest being with your wife while she is exhibiting all of this behavior?
You mentioned it in passing and others have asked about it and you just keep glossing over it. Maybe we misunderstood
I'm curious as to how you are ok with this...
You mentioned it in passing and others have asked about it and you just keep glossing over it. Maybe we misunderstood
I'm curious as to how you are ok with this...
This post was edited on 5/20/24 at 9:13 am
Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:11 am to 850SaintsGator
You do need a lawyer because you may well need to have your wife committed and entered into a conservatorship - or to gain control of her medical and financial well-being.
Attorneys, for all their faults (and there are many) can also advise you on legal issues that we know nothing of or have not thought of that will protect all parties involved.
Attorneys, for all their faults (and there are many) can also advise you on legal issues that we know nothing of or have not thought of that will protect all parties involved.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:11 am to 850SaintsGator
I understand your desire not to drop a bomb on your life, but I implore you not to ignore the literal dozens of people saying protect your children in favor of the one or two saying “just love her better.”
You can do both, I suppose, but you *need* to be sure your children are safe. She is very unstable.
I am a mother. If I were acting this way, I pray my husband would protect our kids and take whatever measures are necessary to prevent me from hurting them or others.
You can do both, I suppose, but you *need* to be sure your children are safe. She is very unstable.
I am a mother. If I were acting this way, I pray my husband would protect our kids and take whatever measures are necessary to prevent me from hurting them or others.
This post was edited on 5/20/24 at 9:19 am
Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:13 am to WyattDonnelly
Air tag in her purse or car and have your camera ready.
*No one pays bills in cash so that cant be it.
*if she is paying cash, she doesnt want her purchases to be traced, or she cant make the purchases with a CC.(Gambling or Drugs)
*or she is saving up for a lawyer and sleeping somewhere else to build case to leave. Sounds like she is telling her family about it but blaming you so this may be the case.
Either way, seek legal help for yourself.
*No one pays bills in cash so that cant be it.
*if she is paying cash, she doesnt want her purchases to be traced, or she cant make the purchases with a CC.(Gambling or Drugs)
*or she is saving up for a lawyer and sleeping somewhere else to build case to leave. Sounds like she is telling her family about it but blaming you so this may be the case.
Either way, seek legal help for yourself.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:16 am to 850SaintsGator
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Even writing this, i feel convicted to be a more loving husband and ignore her crazy shite and focus on the easiest way to get her help and it’s easier when she isn’t antagonized
Sometimes protecting your wife from herself is the best way to love her. Using conventional marital saving techniques in a non conventional situation will not help. The easiest path is not always the correct one. You are blinded by your desire for normalcy. I pray for you and your wife. This will be a long and arduous journey if you wish to take it with her. Either way, an attorney needs to be called now.
This post was edited on 5/20/24 at 9:17 am
Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:25 am to 850SaintsGator
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I know tons of ppl on here are saying “get a lawyer” etc but i swore to love her in sickness and health. - I’m not going to caste her aside during this time- especially because of our children (we have 4, three boys and one girl) need to see a loving father.
I was one of those people. Sounded like this was over but after reading your posts, dude. Fight like hell. Do everything in your power to get her to accept help, even if you have to fall on your sword and give her more grace than you want to in a given moment. Whatever it takes, new job, relocation. I say do it.
It’ll be hard but you know that already. You’re living it so keep fighting and don’t quit. Even if you lose, you’ll be able to tell your kids you did everything you could. Good luck and prayers my friend.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:34 am to im4LSU
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Can you address your thought process of being ok with your youngest being with your wife while she is exhibiting all of this behavior?
I’m not ok with it …i asked her not to bring him - i honestly don’t know how to stop an adult from doing something aside from getting physical/ i don’t have a legal reason so i doesn’t matter to involve LEOs unless it’s a Baker Act
And a point of clarity - when i say hotel living …she isn’t holed up in a hotel - she is just traveling to different cities but the past week as been w/ our youngest
Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:40 am to 850SaintsGator
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i honestly don’t know how to stop an adult from doing something aside from getting physical
if you’ve said anything like this to her, then it makes all of this make a little more sense…
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She accused me of being controlling etc but honestly, i don’t care
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most of this month she has been hotel living bc she says she feels unsafe around me etc
Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:40 am to 850SaintsGator
Have you spoken with an attorney yet - or at least called to make an appointment?
Posted on 5/20/24 at 9:43 am to 850SaintsGator
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I know tons of ppl on here are saying “get a lawyer” etc but i swore to love her in sickness and health. - I’m not going to caste her aside during this time- especially because of our children (we have 4, three boys and one girl) need to see a loving father.
That's all well and good, but talk to a lawyer any way and protect yourself and your kids. Right now, only one person wants to preserve and fix the marriage -- it takes two.
I hope you can get things straightened out, and that would be the best possible outcome, but that does not mean you should avoid taking prudent steps now to protect yourself, your finances, and your children.
A legal separation may be a good intermediate step, but talk to a lawyer and find out your options like today.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 10:02 am to madamsquirrel
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Drug use/money needed increases over time.
Not necessarily for a woman. Women have options.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 10:08 am to 850SaintsGator
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i honestly don’t know how to stop an adult from doing something aside from getting physical
Hmm, thats not the greatest thing to admit....
Not saying this is the case, but that makes it sound like you dont know how to communicate and think the only solution is to get physical....
Which like the guy above said, kinda starts to paint a little different picture here. Or maybe you meant that differently...
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i don’t have a legal reason
Which is kind of the issue. You dont have one, because you havent started it. As a father of 3, If I was truly concerned, I can tell you without the shadow of a doubt I would have already contacted LEOs and an attorney. If only for the kids' sakes.
Man I wish you nothing but the best and hope this all works out for you
This post was edited on 5/20/24 at 10:11 am
Posted on 5/20/24 at 10:34 am to 850SaintsGator
Any possibility of drugs involved?
Would explain both the weird mental behavior and money withdrawals?
The young child shouldn’t be going around living out of hotels.
Also if it is bills that should be easy to prove because the companies she “paying” to will have records. So if you go forward make sure every document of every date is kept and catalogued.
Would explain both the weird mental behavior and money withdrawals?
The young child shouldn’t be going around living out of hotels.
Also if it is bills that should be easy to prove because the companies she “paying” to will have records. So if you go forward make sure every document of every date is kept and catalogued.
This post was edited on 5/20/24 at 10:39 am
Posted on 5/20/24 at 10:45 am to 850SaintsGator
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but i swore to love her in sickness and health. - I’m not going to caste her aside during this time- especially because of our children (we have 4, three boys and one girl) need to see a loving father
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Even writing this, i feel convicted to be a more loving husband and ignore her crazy shite and focus on the easiest way to get her help and it’s easier
I want to say again that this is coming from someone who has lived something close to this. Also, this is coming from a place that knowing you need to hear this:
WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS COMPLETE bullshite. YOU ARE NOT PROTECTING YOUR CHILDREN AND YOU ARE FAILING AS A PARENT.
You have a duty to your children to keep them safe no matter what the threat is. If you wife is on drugs/psychotic/schizophrenic/whatever, you have a duty to your children first. Would you let your child go with another person with the issues your wife is presenting? If you found out their teacher was acting this way would you want them to be in a room with your child? It doesn't matter "who" she is. You have to protect your children from any possible threat.
You are in denial and being lazy. You will one day utterly regret not taking care of your children earlier. It will haunt you.
You also have a duty to safe guard your financial situation for your children as well as yourself. Hell, if she gets help and gets ok, she will appreciate you keeping her from ruining you both financially during this time.
You keep mention that you ignore your gut feelings. One day you will wake up and regret the steps that you know you should do now.
If you wife gets help, that's great. But you cannot ignore the clear and present danger that she presents at this time.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 10:52 am to 850SaintsGator
Got nothing to add, but prayer to you and your family. No matter the outcome, you're going to have a bumpy road for the near future.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 10:55 am to 850SaintsGator
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- when i say hotel living …she isn’t holed up in a hotel - she is just traveling to different cities
She doesn’t work. Why is she traveling to different cities? I’m still thinking drugs.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 10:58 am to SquatchDawg
Happens all the time. You’d be shocked. I’m around it for work all the time and there is no typical addict.
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