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re: Colorized version of famous photograph showing Robert E. Lee one week after surrendering
Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:40 am to Cdawg
Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:40 am to Cdawg
So, what does Wikipedia tell you? Please share with the class.
Oh yeh. It's allll about slavery,
when in fact, has nothing to do with slavery. Step back, and see the picture, not the pixel.
I only offer this once more: If saving the Union was about slavery, President Lincoln could've issued the Proclamation of Emancipation
so
much
earlier.
This post was edited on 6/26/22 at 10:39 am
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Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:41 am to BestBanker
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when in fact, has nothing to do with slavery
Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:42 am to Mike da Tigah
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Or relief. He did his duty for his state, but I don’t ever get the impression that he was ever anything more than motivated by doing is duty for his state.
This is fairly consistent with all historical records. He thought secession was folly (and doomed to fail). He wasn't a particular fan of that peculiar institution, although he certainly participated in it as caretaker of his wife's property, which included slaves.
He certainly felt no ill will towards the United States after the war, although he was disappointed his efforts to secure a pardon failed.
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We failed, but in the good providence of God apparent failure often proves a blessing.
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Sir, if you ever presume again to speak disrespectfully of General Grant in my presence, either you or I will sever his connection with this university.
This post was edited on 6/26/22 at 8:52 am
Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:43 am to Gumbaw
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Slavery wasn't the cause of the Civil War. The South wanted its own currency and to leave the US banking system. History isn't black and white..no pun intended.
and the ability to operate without being told what to do by the Federal Government... jus sayin
/threadjack
I had an Ancestor that fought at the Alamo for Texas Independence. And since I have Property less than a mile from the TX border, looks like I may end up doing the same thing 186 years later... But it won't be fighting the Mexicans, but a Socialistic US Government [Irony]
This post was edited on 6/26/22 at 8:46 am
Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:43 am to pankReb
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I don't care to see a colored version of General Lee
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I don't care to see a colored version of General Lee
Then don't look!!! One of the top 5 Generals of all time. And NO Grant doesnt make the list of top 50
Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:46 am to jb4
quote:Heard he LOST it.
Where is the ole miss hat ?
Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:49 am to Realityintheface
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“ Because of his reputation as one of the finest officers in the United States Army, Abraham Lincoln offered Lee the command of the Federal forces in April 1861. Lee declined and tendered his resignation from the army when the state of Virginia seceded on April 17, arguing that he could not fight against his own people.”
Yeah, such a loser that the President of the United States wanted him to be in command of all Federal forces
Yep.
If Lee had been the Union commander the war would of been over in 6 months.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:49 am to geauxtigers87
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too bad he broke his oath to be loyal to the united states
Seems our leaders of today have done FAR worse.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:50 am to NorthTxLSU
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the look of defeat meanwhile ulysses s grant was somewhere getting topped off and popping bottles of champagne
Why are you so affected by Gen Lee?
Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:50 am to BestBanker
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Oh yeh. It's allll about slavery,
when in fact, has nothing to do with slavery.
The paradox of the Civil War is that both of these things are true.
Slavery was not the "engine" of secession and war, but it was the "fuel".
The deep-seated divisions of cultural and economic between North and South had to be resolved. Slavery was the most poignant one. The United States did not "create" slavery, even within its borders. That was already centuries old. The founders merely tolerated it as a distasteful (yes, even in large swaths of the South) Gordian knot. The North benefitted from slave labor just as much (if not more) than the South, as they filled their bellies, warmed their homes and ran their industry largely on raw materials produced in the South with slave labor. They just didn't have to face it directly, on a day-to-day basis.
The South had so much capital tied up in the slaves (and the North had little) themselves there was no cost effective way out, at least one they could see.
The terrible costs paid by both "halves" of the nation in the Civil War were far more than what should have been arrived at in reasonable compromise in the 1850s. The nation would be in a much better place without that war as long as slavery was abolished as well.
This post was edited on 6/26/22 at 8:53 am
Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:51 am to Napoleon
I've read it.
Interesting read.
Interesting read.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:52 am to geauxtigers87
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too bad he broke his oath to be loyal to the united states
The oath is to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic.
As far as he was concerned that’s exactly what he was doing.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 8:54 am to Gumbaw
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Slavery wasn't the cause of the Civil War
Good luck, I preach this but nobody wants to hear it. Soon somebody will show up with a quote from a book saying otherwise.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 9:01 am to Barbellthor
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That describes literally his entire, incompetent life outside of leading the industrial might of the north. It's so funny. It's the Yankees who can't seem to let the war go and who continue to project their inadequacies.
If this is your entire view of Grant, you’re doing the same thing people are being accused of doing to Lee.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 9:03 am to Gumbaw
Rofl I love Lost Cause morons
Posted on 6/26/22 at 9:03 am to DownSouthCrawfish
It’s funny, the first 4 comments in this thread are “Lee is a loser/traitor lulz” type posts. Every single thread where the civil war or confederacy is concerned, the same low IQ smooth brains chime in virtue signaling their complete lack of intelligence.
For the idiots, what is it about the civil war, that happened 160+ years ago that triggers you? Do you think shite talking long dead confederate soldiers on the internet is a badge of courage? Why do you morons have such an inability to halfway intelligently discuss the subject?
Every time you post retard shite like this, you just broadcast your base level of low intelligence. It’s like you’re a 10 year old vindictive little girl who is so emotionally ruined by a historical period that your only response when the subject is brought up, is to lash out with some childish response.
As someone else said, maybe try learning about a subject from sources other than reddit, democratunderground, or the latest ticktock post.
ETA: Damone is proving my point with every post
For the idiots, what is it about the civil war, that happened 160+ years ago that triggers you? Do you think shite talking long dead confederate soldiers on the internet is a badge of courage? Why do you morons have such an inability to halfway intelligently discuss the subject?
Every time you post retard shite like this, you just broadcast your base level of low intelligence. It’s like you’re a 10 year old vindictive little girl who is so emotionally ruined by a historical period that your only response when the subject is brought up, is to lash out with some childish response.
As someone else said, maybe try learning about a subject from sources other than reddit, democratunderground, or the latest ticktock post.
ETA: Damone is proving my point with every post
This post was edited on 6/26/22 at 9:04 am
Posted on 6/26/22 at 9:07 am to BugAC
I’m the triggered one btw
Posted on 6/26/22 at 9:07 am to Sus-Scrofa
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If this is your entire view of Grant, you’re doing the same thing people are being accused of doing to Lee.
I’m not a civil war expert as much as some on the board, but the inability of the North to take control of the war far earlier than Gettysburg shows the inability of many of their generals. What the confederate generals did with what they didn’t have is pretty amazing but the end result was inevitable. Too many resources of the Union that the south did not have.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 9:09 am to RollTide1987
AND another sh*t-stirring CW post and photo.
I'm curious; What is YOUR opinion on why the Civil War was started and fought, Tide1987?
I'm curious; What is YOUR opinion on why the Civil War was started and fought, Tide1987?
Posted on 6/26/22 at 9:10 am to BugAC
If Grant could’ve foreseen what the country was like in 2022 he might’ve thrown in the towel.
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