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re: Colorado deputies shoot and kill man who asked for help after car crash
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:47 pm to scottyd
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:47 pm to scottyd
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Take that and couple it with being on drugs, maybe they should have taken a few steps back to try to calm him down.
Jumping on his hood and blazing a light into his eyes certainly calmed the situation...
Just ridiculous.
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:50 pm to scottyd
quote:It's not at all.
No. I’m literally telling you it’s a stretch to say that’s why he had the knife
quote:You clearly didn't watch the video or read the posts that recapped the encounter.
and he’s had guns pointed at him for the better part of an hour. Take that and couple it with being on drugs, maybe they should have taken a few steps back to try to calm him down.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:52 pm to Street Hawk
Damn, fricking trigger happy cops.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:53 pm to shel311
So in the video he wasn’t tazed, didn’t have guns pointed at him, and there wasn’t a cop on his hood with his pistol light in his face?
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:55 pm to scottyd
quote:What I just quoted here is not what I quoted above, so again, what you just said here is entirely irrelevant to my reply above in which you made entirely different claims.
So in the video he wasn’t tazed, didn’t have guns pointed at him, and there wasn’t a cop on his hood with his pistol light in his face?
You gotta get your thoughts together there. You're all over the place.
This post was edited on 9/14/22 at 7:56 pm
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:57 pm to Street Hawk
All that should really matter in this case is that 20+ cops from every agency in the state could not manage to get one skinny, high arse white dude out of a vehicle without killing him.
Say whatever the hell you want, try to justify the ultimate outcome however you wish, but I've watched the same damn scenario play out in LA/California numerous times. shite, this type stuff happens regularly out there after police chases and such. I've yet to see them kill a person because they wouldn't get out of the car. I've seen them take their time, try reasoning with them, ultimately break the glass, go non/less lethal, bring the dog in, and get the frickers out of the vehicle......alive.
I've seen them do this numerous times while on busy interstates after intense car chases with little-to-no planning or knowledge of the person they were dealing with. It can be done and it is done likely every day somewhere across the country.
Say whatever the hell you want, try to justify the ultimate outcome however you wish, but I've watched the same damn scenario play out in LA/California numerous times. shite, this type stuff happens regularly out there after police chases and such. I've yet to see them kill a person because they wouldn't get out of the car. I've seen them take their time, try reasoning with them, ultimately break the glass, go non/less lethal, bring the dog in, and get the frickers out of the vehicle......alive.
I've seen them do this numerous times while on busy interstates after intense car chases with little-to-no planning or knowledge of the person they were dealing with. It can be done and it is done likely every day somewhere across the country.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:57 pm to Street Hawk
That’s fricking murder.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:57 pm to Street Hawk
So many bootlickers on this web page
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:58 pm to scottyd
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So in the video he wasn’t tazed, didn’t have guns pointed at him, and there wasn’t a cop on his hood with his pistol light in his face
Of course they did when they decided to pull him out of the car. Before that every officer out there worked with the guy for an hour trying to get him out of the car. They offered the guy help, an ambulance, water, soda, beef jerky, cigarettes, a lighter, etc. they literally sat there begging the guy to get out. They even asked him to throw the knives in the backseat and he didnt. They did everything possible in a calm manner to get the guy to cooperate. Not until they decided to pull him out did the guy jump up on the hood as directed to have the best view of the guys hands because they knew he was still holding the knife. Good thing because he almost stabbed the older cop thru the window.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 8:01 pm to BuckyCheese
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Jumping on his hood and blazing a light into his eyes certainly calmed the situation...
Grabbing the knife was just his way of showing them how chill he was.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 8:02 pm to nitwit
quote:
Interesting
I don't think that's as interesting as you want it to be.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 8:05 pm to diat150
Geez, only if the guy had offered to throw them out of the window.
You act as if these cops are just innocent bystanders. They chose to serve their community, sometimes that choice comes with a greater level of risk acceptance toward your own personal safety. There has been zero evidence that the guy who was shot was a threat to anyone while he was sitting in his car.
This was a case of horrible judgement from everyone involved. The guy should’ve got out of the car, and the cops shouldn’t have shot him.
You act as if these cops are just innocent bystanders. They chose to serve their community, sometimes that choice comes with a greater level of risk acceptance toward your own personal safety. There has been zero evidence that the guy who was shot was a threat to anyone while he was sitting in his car.
This was a case of horrible judgement from everyone involved. The guy should’ve got out of the car, and the cops shouldn’t have shot him.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 8:11 pm to LegendInMyMind
quote:Conveniently leaving out some important details in between.
All that should really matter in this case is that 20+ cops from every agency in the state could not manage to get one skinny, high arse white dude out of a vehicle without killing him.
quote:You've still yet to see that because he wasn't shot "because he wouldn't get out of the car"
I've yet to see them kill a person because they wouldn't get out of the car.
quote:Cops here did do that
I've seen them take their tim
quote:When the person in the car had a weapon and lunging at cops with said weapon?
ultimately break the glass, go non/less lethal, bring the dog in, and get the frickers out of the vehicle
quote:Right, when they aren't trying to shoot or stab the cop pulling them out of the car.
I've seen them do this numerous times while on busy interstates after intense car chases with little-to-no planning or knowledge of the person they were dealing with. It can be done and it is done likely every day somewhere across the country.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 8:12 pm to diat150
quote:That throws a wrench in that dude's post who was saying its a stretch to say he kept the knives close because he thought he may need to use it.
They even asked him to throw the knives in the backseat and he didnt
Posted on 9/14/22 at 8:14 pm to shel311
Keep defending them. You're right. There was no other way. It has never, ever been done before.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 8:14 pm to shel311
No it doesn’t because he offered to throw them outside the car and they said no.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 8:16 pm to LegendInMyMind
quote:This is weak.
Keep defending them. You're right. There was no other way. It has never, ever been done before.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 8:18 pm to scottyd
quote:
Geez, only if the guy had offered to throw them out of the window. You act as if these cops are just innocent bystanders. They chose to serve their community, sometimes that choice comes with a greater level of risk acceptance toward your own personal safety. There has been zero evidence that the guy who was shot was a threat to anyone while he was sitting in his car. This was a case of horrible judgement from everyone involved. The guy should’ve got out of the car, and the cops shouldn’t have shot him.
So you are saying a cop should tell a suspect to reach for a weapon 2 minutes into a stop where the suspect is clearly on something and acting erratically? Im no cop but that goes against logic. Especially after the guy was already talking about killing people.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 8:18 pm to Street Hawk
The cops bungled this one. Obviously this guy is impaired and not thinking clearly. Break both windows, pepper spray him when he is incapacitated loop a rope around him and drag his arse out of the vehicle. Don't tell me they exhausted all their options. They unnecessarily took his life and now they should have to answer for their actions. Particularly the cop behind the trigger. I am typically pro LE but not in this case.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 8:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
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This is the stuff they're referencing. Dude was clearly a little off but no danger to anyone. The last thing he needed was LEO escalating
SFP, nobody has time to deal with these people and their problems.
It absolutely sucks but that's the world we live in. The world isn't going to bend to accommodate crazy unstable individuals.
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