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re: Colorado Cops Injure a 73-Year-Old Woman With Dementia
Posted on 4/28/21 at 12:39 am to WaWaWeeWa
Posted on 4/28/21 at 12:39 am to WaWaWeeWa
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No I’m not.
Yes you are.
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It exists in every profession and manifests itself in different ways.
Ah yes, this is where you equate the myth of a mechanic jerking off in the bank seat of a car with police brutality. Again.
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Evil cops make fun of a grandma after they dislocated arm
That’s what you meant right?
Don’t forget violating constitutional rights.
And executing defenseless citizens lying prone on their stomachs in hotel hallways.
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We know why all these stories are posted everyday. It’s to create a message that there are more evil police than you would expect.
Or it’s to shed light on yet another group of shitty cops that have been able to remain hidden under the radar up to that point.
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And I just don’t see any evidence it’s true.
Literally the least shocking thing you have posted in this thread.
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 12:42 am to WaWaWeeWa
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This is what the article says
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Garner's lawsuit alleges she did not receive medical care for more than six hours after her arrest. Loveland police chief Bob Ticer told the Loveland Reporter-Herald last week that police officials did not learn about Garner's injuries until the lawsuit was filed.
Your inability to comprehend nuance is only matched by your inability to see middle ground. I can believe police officials didn't know about any injuries until the filing but one has picked a hard row to hoe if you want to argue the three officers watching the video with an apparent audible pop of her arm didn't realize she was injured.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 12:43 am to EarlyCuyler3
You aren’t going to link that bullshite article?
It says right there that there was a STRIKING upward trend in homicides!
He was killed in Ferguson, Missouri. And the closet major city had a major upward trend.
Why would you look at 81 other random cities. They aren’t going to stop policing as much as the police in the city where it happened
That article proves the Ferguson effect moron.
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his co-authors looked at crime rates in 81 large American cities in the year after Mr. Brown’s death and found no overall increase. However, in some cities — like Baltimore, New Orleans, St. Louis and Washington — there was a striking upward trend in homicides.
It says right there that there was a STRIKING upward trend in homicides!
He was killed in Ferguson, Missouri. And the closet major city had a major upward trend.
Why would you look at 81 other random cities. They aren’t going to stop policing as much as the police in the city where it happened
That article proves the Ferguson effect moron.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 12:44 am to Obtuse1
The pop lets them know justice has been served. Their arse has been fully protected and served.
This post was edited on 4/28/21 at 12:45 am
Posted on 4/28/21 at 12:46 am to Obtuse1
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Your inability to comprehend nuance is only matched by your inability to see middle ground. I can believe police officials didn't know about any injuries until the filing but one has picked a hard row to hoe if you want to argue the three officers watching the video with an apparent audible pop of her arm didn't realize she was injured.
Your inability to realize that’s a lawyers statement to the media is laughable.
Do you know for a fact the cops hadn’t already called for some type of low level medical attention at the point they were watching the video? A doctor isn’t coming to the jail immediately and if she isn’t in pain and has no complaints what are they supposed to do?
So me evidence more than a lawyers statements and I totally agree with you. I’ll even agree with you hypothetically if that’s in fact what happened.
This post was edited on 4/28/21 at 12:47 am
Posted on 4/28/21 at 12:47 am to WaWaWeeWa
It's funny you bring up history like it's been kind to societies that live in fear of their police forces. Or with establishments that seek to disarm the citizens. You bring up sleeping in your house at night like a no knock raid couldn't happen there, or like someone couldn't find out where it is and describe you as a threat yourself and others just for a laugh. Would it really take your own personal victimization before you'd accept that cops determine how long their own leash is?
Posted on 4/28/21 at 12:47 am to WaWaWeeWa
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This is what the article says
What exactly is your point? The arresting officers are clearly aware she is injured and in need of medical evaluation yet they failed to provide it. Intentionally. Willfully.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 12:47 am to WaWaWeeWa
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That article proves the Ferguson effect moron.
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Richard Rosenfeld, a criminologist, made similar findings but noted that police activity, as measured by arrests, had begun declining as far back as 2010. “If we’re going to attribute higher crime to pullback, we have to explain why we didn’t see that earlier,” Mr. Rosenfeld said.
In St. Louis, whose police chief coined the term “Ferguson effect,” homicides had begun to increase before Mr. Brown was killed.
You really ain't smart, is you?
Posted on 4/28/21 at 12:48 am to Open Your Eyes
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Open Your Eyes
How was it excessive force?
Posted on 4/28/21 at 12:50 am to WaWaWeeWa
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How was it excessive force?
What do you think it takes to subdue a 73 year old woman? Would you say doing it without breaking any bones is an achievement?
Would you call it exemplary if the police could identify lowered mental acuity and endeavored to solve the issue without violence?
This post was edited on 4/28/21 at 12:54 am
Posted on 4/28/21 at 12:51 am to WaWaWeeWa
The problem with our society is that we argue too much. Let the hate go, love one another, respect each other. Do towards others as you'd have others do towards you.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 12:53 am to WaWaWeeWa
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Your inability to realize that’s a lawyers statement to the media is laughable.
You think that’s a lawyer’s statement when it contains a link to a news report from 2 weeks ago that states the chief made that statement to the media regarding officials not knowing about the injury.
Insane. Irrational. Illogical. Ignorant. Let’s go ahead and add stupid to the list.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 12:54 am to EarlyCuyler3
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You really ain't smart, is you?
You don’t really read the research you cite, does you?
You just read the highlights in the New York Times. This is from the paper...
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the disaggregated analyses revealed that robbery rates, declining before Ferguson, increased in the months after Ferguson. Also, there was much greater variation in crime trends in the post-Ferguson era, and select cities did experience increases in homicide. Overall, any Ferguson Effect is constrained largely to cities with historically high levels of violence, a large composition of black residents, and socioeconomic disadvantages.
So is it that you don’t care because the Ferguson effect happened in poor black neighborhoods? Shame on you
This post was edited on 4/28/21 at 12:56 am
Posted on 4/28/21 at 12:57 am to jiffyjohnson
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What do you think it takes to subdue a 73 year old woman? Would you say doing it without breaking any bones is an achievement? Would you call it exemplary if the police could identify lowered mental acuity and endeavored to solve the issue without violence?
None of that answers the question.
And it was for open your eyes who keeps avoiding it.
How SPECIFICALLY was it excessive force?
Posted on 4/28/21 at 12:58 am to WaWaWeeWa
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Do you know for a fact the cops hadn’t already called for some type of low level medical attention at the point they were watching the video? A doctor isn’t coming to the jail immediately and if she isn’t in pain and has no complaints what are they supposed to do?
So me evidence more than a lawyers statements and I totally agree with you. I’ll even agree with you hypothetically if that’s in fact what happened
Let’s stick to the facts, shall we? Wasn’t that the line you used earlier in the thread?
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Despite the visible dislocation of her arm from her shoulder, and her repeated cries of pain while on scene and in the several hours she remained in their care and control that followed, neither the defendant officers nor anyone else at the Loveland Police Department sought medical care for Ms. Garner, instead keeping her in extreme pain, in handcuffs, and actively preventing her from access to medical treatment for over six hours.
Unless you have the Answer denying this allegation AND providing additional facts to dispute it, you’re just speculating to try to slither your way out of the dumbass comments you’ve made here. We have the video, that’s the best evidence at this point yet you still refuse to place any blame on them. It’s just dishonest
Posted on 4/28/21 at 12:59 am to Proximo
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Despite the visible dislocation of her arm from her shoulder, and her repeated cries of pain while on scene
None of this was on the video I watched.
But again, if you are right I agree with you. So why exactly are your panties in a bunch again?
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yet you still refuse to place any blame on them.
I’ve already said their behavior after the arrest was grounds for termination.
This post was edited on 4/28/21 at 1:01 am
Posted on 4/28/21 at 1:01 am to WaWaWeeWa
The. Broken. Bones. We clear on that now? Take into account age, suspected crime, ability to resist, damage done, and total lack of remorse. Arrive at the conclusion it was excessive or youre going in the chipper feet first.
Posted on 4/28/21 at 1:03 am to jiffyjohnson
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The. Broken. Bones. We clear on that now?
No
How do broken bones mean excessive force? She was struggling and fighting the whole time. I’m not blaming her but to say she has a broken bone doesn’t automatically mean he did something wrong. She probably has osteoporosis
People like you crack me up. You don’t like how he did that so “it’s excessive”.
Do you understand they have guidelines and policies that define the use of force? You can’t just say you didn’t like it. How was it excessive?
This post was edited on 4/28/21 at 1:05 am
Posted on 4/28/21 at 1:07 am to WaWaWeeWa
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She probably has osteoporosis
What makes you think that? Is it cause shes....73?
It really needs to be written down for cops to understand they shouldn't manhandle the elderly? Cops can do anything to people as long as it's written down first? Drink bleach bootlicker
This post was edited on 4/28/21 at 1:11 am
Posted on 4/28/21 at 1:13 am to WaWaWeeWa
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And it was for open your eyes who keeps avoiding it.
Im avoiding something?
I have made no comments whatsoever as to whether it was excessive force. But since you want to know so badly, yes it clearly was. The 73 year old woman with dementia that was reported for shoplifting not posing a threat to anyone in the middle of nowhere by herself that ended up with a dislocated shoulder and fractured arm after being manhandled and thrown on the ground multiple times by a supposedly adult male is proof of that.
Now, let’s get to posts Youve most definitely been avoiding:
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I won’t hold my breath waiting for you to actually respond to these. We both know you’re too much of a bitch to do it.
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