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re: CNN: The US would be better off with fewer billionaires

Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:10 pm to
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:10 pm to
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about a fifth of Americans have zero or negative net worth. And nearly two-fifths of us don't have the cash on hand to cover a $400 emergency, according to the Federal Reserve.



Sucks to suck
Posted by DenverTiger24
Member since Feb 2020
63 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:13 pm to
Where would the incentive be if you take away making money
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:14 pm to
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And nearly two-fifths of us don't have the cash on hand to cover a $400 emergency, according to the Federal Reserve.


Bet more than two fifths have pretty good wireless plans, beats headphones and sweet kicks.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:15 pm to
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Okay, so what's the solution other than tax the shite out of billionaires? They aren't going to quit making money and finding tax breaks. And where does that tax money go? Far more likely to line the pockets of rich cronies than boost up the lower class.


I agree that a wealth tax is a terrible idea and it's been proven in other countries to not work. The fact that we have people running on a wealth tax is astounding.

A VAT tax forces the large corporations to pay taxes, but it can disproportionally affect the poor with price increases and extra taxes. That is where UBI comes in - now you increase that poor persons income by $12k a year by giving the VAT tax money out and the poor people still come out ahead.
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
46116 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:28 pm to
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It is essentially a way to bypass estate taxes and then transfer wealth.

Good. There should be NO estate taxes.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:33 pm to
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Sucks to suck


It's easy to say that now. Until the day comes where the suckers eventually decide they have less to lose by revolting than not. Then the sucking will be on the other side. We're probably still a long ways from that though. Life is still pretty damn good here compared to most places. We still should be aware of what's going on under the surface though and realize that eventually the bubble will burst at some point. And stop believing that there is any sort of real solution in team politics.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36574 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:40 pm to
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we have a habit of choosing the least appealing candidate possible.



“We”


Sounds impartial to me
Posted by Buryl
Member since Sep 2016
1027 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:04 pm to
Check out the college admissions scandal. I promise you that it isnt a fluke or isolated incident. Rules are in place for the suckers, not for them.

I bet you still think that college admissions are merit based.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:07 pm to
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Rules are in place for the suckers, not for them.



Truer words, etc.

Why do people think Congress is exempt from insider trading? How do politicians all come out rich as hell when they retire? Both "teams" are in on the scam.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
9998 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:34 pm to
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I just don't understand how people can say it's more morally palatable to have the money taken from people, give it to a group of corrupt politicians who then turn around and use it to essentially buy votes and get kickbacks than to give it directly to the people that need it.


Couldn't agree more. I, too, am disgusted by Trump gifting corporate farmers $30,000,000,000 of tax payer money, with more to come, because of the trade war he started. That's a lot of money per vote, eh?
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
9998 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:40 pm to
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Quick! Name a country that became more prosperous after eliminating “the rich”.


Democrats don't want to eliminate "the rich". We want them to pay their fair share of taxes (by %). We don't see a reason CEOs in the 60' and 70's made 70 times more than an average worker at their companies but are suddenly worth 400-500 times their average worker today. Why is a CEO who bankrupts a company or underperforms given a $400M parachute payment for failing? Meanwhile, the ordinary guy at that company might get a severance package of 2-3 weeks pay despite going in and doing a good job every day?

I want people to succeed. I think I've done a decent job succeeding in life. I want my friends and family to get rich and be successful. I also think people who make it on the backs of the everyday man shouldn't have a problem contributing to the society who helped them reach that point.

Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120368 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:47 pm to
Everyone should work to make as much as possible. That's what America is supposed to be about right? Land of opportunity.. Its about creating competition.. As people, companies, etc work to be the best in whatever they do.. It benefits the customer..

Either way, you can't put a cap on how many billionaires there will be.

Its not possible for everyone to become a billionaire, but how do you discourage people from becoming billionaires? This is the dumbest thing I read today.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298081 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:49 pm to
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We want them to pay their fair share of taxes


They do. And more.

A guy worth a billion dollars isn't the reason you struggle in life. It's still pure jealousy.
Posted by LCA131
Home of the Fake Sig lines
Member since Feb 2008
76617 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:51 pm to
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We want them to pay their fair share of taxes (by %)


Who decides what this word means?

Why should it be by %? How about just dollars? Does a rich man cost the government more than a poorer one? Why should someone who makes 400k a year pay ... Say 120k in taxes but someone who makes 60k pay just 12k?

Do we charge him more for a set of tires? A Wendy's triple? A pair of seats to a ball game?
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:52 pm to
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That's what America is supposed to be about right? Land of opportunity.


"Suposed to be" and is are two very different things. The last thing the wealthy want is actual competition. That's why ISP's have regional monopolies. That's why union busting was such a big deal. The whole free market capitalism is PR.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:55 pm to
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Why should it be by %?


The better question is why shouldn't it be by percent? It's the most fair way to do things, aside from the fact that governmentental theft isnt fair at all.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
9998 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:55 pm to
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They do. And more.

A guy worth a billion dollars isn't the reason you struggle in life. It's still pure jealousy.


I love when you pretend to be rich.

I don't struggle in life, nor did I have to runaway to Alaska to hide from society.

The way the rich abuse tax laws, our tax system has nearly become regressive.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
9998 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:56 pm to
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Why should it be by %? How about just dollars?


Is this a serious question? Of course it's a matter of percentages.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:56 pm to
Rich people foot a lot of the tax burden in the US.

I don't want to tax rich people any more, I want to make sure the large corporations they run pay their fair share of taxes. That's where there is a glaring hole.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31349 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:58 pm to
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The way the rich abuse tax laws, our tax system has nearly become regressive.



I absolutely agree with this. It’s not being jealous, it’s just common sense or should be.
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