re: China tries to copy SpaceX and it doesn’t go well.

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Their electric cars are already significantly better than Tesla's, and cheaper.

I don't think people here understand what china has been doing. In the US, the smartest people go to wall street, private equity, etc. In china, investment returns are capped. The smartest people go into engineering, R&D, etc.

Our empire is rotten.

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Well, it's not really showing. Their M2 is to the moon - they're quite literally printing money to throw at the tech deficit - yet they're still generations behind on semiconductors even if they could get the equipment. Hence using cutouts to get NVDA chips.

It's 2026 - China has still not yet produced a viable passenger jet that isn't completely dependent on Western components. They've been trying for 50 YEARS.

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The best of China has already come to the USA. That is why American Chinese food is so much better than Chinese Chinese food. Ethnocentrism on overdrive.

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Kiss my arse ChiCom lover.

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See: Their air defense and missiles sold to Iran

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The ones that just downed one of our F15-Es?

They gather up all the ideas from all the smartest people and put them into the grubby hands of a very small number of people who have all the money thanks to our crony capitalist economy.

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That won't matter after they take Taiwan.

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Just way too many moving parts. Can they do it and keep TSMC operational? Even if they could, who is doing the designing, Huawei? Will it be before the US efforts to get TSMC's efforts in Arizona at a viable level?

I think it's pretty obvious there is some validity to the silicon shield, otherwise China wouldn't be pouring cash into their domestic effort and seeing the gap widen month by month.

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The ones that just downed one of our F15-Es?

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One F-15. One. Not a single F35 or F22. For some perspective:

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US Air Force and Navy combat forces have flown more than 13,000 sorties in Epic Fury so far. Adding those flown by the IAF, we are looking at over 20,000 sorties over more than a month of combat operations. All aerial losses over Iran up to this point have been MQ-9s or Israeli drones.

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But sure, those Chinese air defense systems are doing great work. I'm sure they're just flying off the shelves to other countries after that stellar performance.

Or how about those awesome CM-302 anti-ship missiles? All 50 of them failed.

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The ones that just downed one of our F15-Es?

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After thirty five days and over 13,000 successful sorties, one F15 shot down is hardly an endorsement of their hardware.