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Posted by Boston911
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2013
2599 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:13 pm to
Everything you want to know about Chicago’s shooting/murder problem, by year, month, cause, race, etc

Chicago Violence Stats
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17895 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:22 pm to
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With all the shite that goes on in Chicago, you will not see any of it in the areas you are most likely staying/visiting. Unless you walk a few blocks leaving White Sox stadium at night.

Yeah, all those white and Chinese families that live around the ballpark are animals.
Posted by Amadeo
Member since Jan 2004
4900 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:43 pm to
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9 million in the metro area and a whole lot of those come into the city every day.

Understood. I was just cleaning up the gentleman's math a bit as he compared Chicago's metro population to NOLA's city proper population suggesting a 23:1 ratio, whereas metro for metro, the ratio in more like 7:1.

Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8720 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:59 pm to
quote:

Everything you want to know about Chicago’s shooting/murder problem, by year, month, cause, race, etc

Chicago Violence Stats



That's actually a very interesting site even it's more than a little tabloid-y.

Some things that stand out to me:

- Opiod deaths are way down this year for some reason here; no idea why that is

- There was a massive leap up in 2016 after a slight uptick in 2015; 2013 and 2014 were the safest years in Chicago in nearly fifty years; 2017 then had a fairly sizeable drop from 2016 and it appears that 2018 is going to have another fairly sizeable drop judging by trends; hopefully we can get back to 2015 or 2014 levels in short order

- It's the same 10 or 12 neighborhoods that it has been since before my parents were born; the poster who said it's starting to creep into the nice areas doesn't know what he's talking about, and Chicago is gentrifying quickly in some of those bad areas in the list of the worst neighborhoods (particularly Humboldt Park, New City, Near West Side, Woodlawn, and West Town), and they'll be as safe as Bucktown or Wrigleyville or Lincoln Park within five to ten years

- Austin in Chicago has to be the absolute worst neighborhood in America right now (it's the only blood red neighborhood and it's in the far west side of the city); it is so much worse on that map and in recent years than even other true shitholes like Englewood and Lawndale that I have to think there is something going on there that isn't hitting the press; supposedly, it was (probably still is) the main market for heroin for suburbanites coming in from the Western burbs, and I wonder if turf violence is just incredibly high there

- Violence on the Southside is slowly shifting west; a lot of those neighborhoods near the lake in blue and gold from Douglas south all the way to South Chicago would have been red and blood red ten years ago

- Looking at a map of the northern half of the city like that (basically, take everything on a line from North Lawndale east to Near Northside and then it's everything including and above that) is pretty stark; you have some of the nicest and most beautiful real estate in the world on the districts along and near the lake and then it slowly dilapidates as you get away from the lake; as an example, the graph for Humboldt Park is misleading - the eastern half is pretty damn nice and you won't find a house there for less than half a million (and probably much more), but get on the western half, and you're starting to get into Austin gang territory; Near West Side and West Town were both like that ten or fifteen years ago, so the slow creep west is illustrated
Posted by bleeng
The Woodlands
Member since Apr 2013
4442 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:04 pm to
It’s like these top 10 keep exchanging places every year. Same cities same shite.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:10 pm to
quote:

Everything you want to know about Chicago’s shooting/murder problem, by year, month, cause, race, etc

Only 14 shot dead? That's not bad at all for Chicago. We've had 19 so far in Jacksonville.

Nevermind, I'm retarded. That's only May and not all year.
This post was edited on 5/9/18 at 10:17 pm
Posted by foreverLSU
Member since Mar 2006
17080 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:16 pm to
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quote:
It’s leaking into the “good areas” too


No it isn’t. I don’t know anyone who’ve experienced that.


Ok you have no idea what you're talking about.

I recently moved out of Chicago, and I lived in a nice part of town (Lakeview) only a few blocks from Theo Epstein. The crime rates have sky rocketed in our neighborhood over the last several years. Car jackings and muggings occurring before 10pm. Since our alderman sucks and there's a shortage of police to go around, some of the wealthier residents banned together to hire private security to patrol the streets in certain parts of Lakeview because it's that bad.

The problem is the red line runs 24 hours and passes through our neighborhood, so it's easy for a south side thug to hop on the train at 95th, get off at Wrigley, and prey on unsuspecting people. The lack of policing on the north side is well known too, making the residents easy targets.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:19 pm to
Here's the map from my Chicago Tribune link on the first page:

Posted by TheDeathValley
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2010
20781 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:32 pm to
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I like lying too.


I guess I misspoke and it is 17 shot in 17 hours. Regardless, you’re a douche.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8720 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:32 pm to
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Here's the map from my Chicago Tribune link on the first page:


He's talking about crime near the Red Line and Lakeshore Drive on the Northside, which is a legitimate problem. It's really easy for hoodrats to hop on the train and take the Red Line up or get in a car and take it up Lakeshore and rob and mug people near those systems of transportation. They target people in Lakeview specifically, and the Belmont stop on the Red Line/Brown Line/Purple Line is statistically the worst stop in the entire system for crime (and it's right smack dab in the middle of a very nice area). It's just not, generally, murdering and raping but rather robbery.

However, that problem has been around for a while and is pretty localized to that specific stop in that neighborhood. The reason they target Lakeview (rather than Lincoln Park or Old Town or Gold Coast, all of which are also along the Red Line and a little shorter train ride and are even nicer neighborhoods) is because Lakeview is full of kids right out of college living in their first apartments, going to the bars three or four nights per week, and getting hammered. The fricking hoodrats see them as easy prey.

Your map is cool to look at, though. It's another "holy shite" with regards to just how much more violent Austin is than the rest of the city, even the other really rough hoods.
This post was edited on 5/9/18 at 10:34 pm
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66999 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 11:46 pm to
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how much more violent Austin is than the rest of the city, even the other really rough hoods.

Strange. I just did a number of random Google street views of the Austin area, and, IMO, the homes look respectable. Nothing on the order of fancy, but nothing like what I expected.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
20647 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 1:49 am to
Mmmmm, I don’t think so. I’ve been staying off and on pretty consistently in that area off Southport for 2 years and I haven’t seen anything even close to shady and I know a lot of people that live in the area who also have never mentioned anything.

You know, a large police station and fire departmartsnt next to the Addison stop tends to kinda convince the bums to not get off at the redline Addison stop.

Also, with all the construction that’s going on around wrigley, the area is gentrifying even more.



Now the redline is awful. I won’t disagree with you. I’ve seen shite on the redline and I won’t take it past 12 anymore, but if a bum is getting off anywhere north of the loop, it’s going to be Division and Clark or Grand. I have had numerous run ins and encounters there before with bums.

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