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re: Charleston is a poor man’s New Orleans

Posted on 3/17/19 at 12:27 pm to
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 12:27 pm to
Charleston has Roper as well. There is also these two small automobile companies called Mercedes and Volvo that have opened shop in the last few months. Volvo is already sprouting up support factories near it.

The tech field in Charleston is just now kickstarting in the last 3 years. We’re booming. Once the harbor gets dredged, our ports which our already packed will be booming even more.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
35651 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 12:30 pm to
Charleston also has viable public schools
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
110611 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 12:34 pm to
Charleston now has 30 microbreweries.
Posted by TheGasMan
Member since Oct 2014
3488 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 12:38 pm to
And the Recovery Room

Number 1 seller of PBR in the nation. Although, that’s definitely not a plus for the city
Posted by stapuffmarshy
lower 9
Member since Apr 2010
17507 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 12:59 pm to
NOLA doesn't have a hockey team.


Charlestown>>>>>>>NOLA



Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8718 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 1:29 pm to
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Charleston only has MUSC, the medical university for the state, a large VA which sees patients from Georgia to North Carolina and does Telehealth nationwide,


Scale and scope matter when we're having these discussions. Most cities of any size have major research hospitals and healthcare systems along with VA centers. For illustration, VUMC in Nashville employs more people by itself than there are in the entire healthcare industry in Charleston. Charleston does not have an HCA or a CHS or, just as importantly, all the ancillary services surrounding what is one of the most important cities in the largest and fastest-growing industry in the country.

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and a little company called Boeing.


Big win for Charleston, but it's neither Boeing's largest facility nor its HQ. It's a production facility (ditto for the auto companies that have opened up nearby).

The rest of the stuff mentioned - the port, military, etc. - are all relatively mature industries that won't fuel major growth.

To get the kind of growth that Austin, Nashville, Portland, Raleigh-Durham, etc. have had over the last twenty to thirty years, a region typically needs to have a major and renowned research university or two, be the home for large and influential national/international companies in high-growth industries, and be a nexus for talent surrounding those industries. Charleston is a great city, but I don't see it ticking a lot of those boxes.
This post was edited on 3/17/19 at 1:31 pm
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 1:31 pm to
Charleston is where people in NO would live if they had a way to get out
Posted by TheGasMan
Member since Oct 2014
3488 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 1:38 pm to
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renowned research university

But we do have a school that is older than any college south of VA and has multiple signers of the Declaration of Independence and Constitution as alumni

Charleston and the low country of SC/GA were the king of rice way before NOLA was a pimple on the a-hole of the Gulf of Mexico.
This post was edited on 3/17/19 at 1:55 pm
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8718 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 1:59 pm to
If I had to do life all over again, CoC would have received a lot more attention. Beautiful and fun school in a cool part of town - though, to my point, it's not that big and it's a very undergrad-focused institution.

I've spent a lot of time in Charleston over the last three or four years and even looked at what a move there would look like. I love it there, but it was tough to shake the feeling that there isn't much in the way of organic professional work unless you're at MUSC or a military base. If Charleston produces a Dell or a Nike or an HCA or something like that in the next decade (and all the attendant legal services, investment banking, professional investing, etc. that follows), then I could see it really taking off.

Also, the zoning laws hurt as much as they help.
This post was edited on 3/17/19 at 2:04 pm
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
110611 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 2:04 pm to
We have enough people moving here already (over 40 a day), we don’t need or want all that noise.
Posted by MileHighDraw
Member since May 2018
1911 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 2:10 pm to
New Orleans is an absolute shite hole.
Posted by TheGasMan
Member since Oct 2014
3488 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 2:11 pm to
Very accurate post.

I enjoyed my time at CofC and the undergraduate focus by CofC gives anyone that pursues grad school (atleast in the sciences) a leg up due to the ample research opportunities afforded to them that would normally have been slotted for grad students.

However, to your other point, the BAR has hindered so much development downtown over the years and it’s sad.

Unless you’re in the apartment/hotel business.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 2:13 pm to
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Charleston also has viable public schools


If true, that must be a recent development because as recently as 10 years ago the Charleston public school system was New Orleans/Baton Rogue tier.
Posted by TheGasMan
Member since Oct 2014
3488 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 2:16 pm to
Wando and Academic magnet are some of the best public high schools in the nation. It’s the rest of Charleston County public schools that are mid-shite tier range.
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
15632 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

Charleston is way better than Nola. Edisto, Folly, IOP. The food is great in both cities.


Umm I have to disagree. No comparison of food in both cities. NOLA has it beat by a mile.
Posted by ellishughtiger
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Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 2:43 pm to
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Charleston is where people in NO would live if they had a way to get out


Lol
Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
Member since May 2017
5202 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 2:55 pm to
Why don't you go participate in it?
Posted by tigahbruh
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2014
2863 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 3:28 pm to
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Franklin Avenue & St. Claude
That areas nothing but miltant hipsters and AirbnBs now. Go two blocks north and you're in a warzone though.


If you want to see Haiti meets Trustafarian dipshit, this is the intersection to view.
Posted by tigahbruh
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2014
2863 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 3:52 pm to
Yeah. Charleston is objectively superior to Nola in most ways, but probably not much better in public school game. Probably fewer affordable private schools too. Thanks, Catholic Church!

That said, Charleston has about maintained its same status for centuries. New Orleans was once a major global commercial center. Now it is a second rate tourist attraction that is dependent on combining efforts with the other ports in the area (Fouchon, BR, Gulfport/Biloxi, etc). The state and city have chased away its true purpose- which is capitalism.

In terms of culture, New Orleans is a pathetic shadow of its former self. Some aspects of the African American culture remain deep in neighborhoods the hipsters would be terrified to venture into.Much of that has devolved into generic African American culture, though. Most of the actual traditional NO culture can only be found in St Bernard, Jefferson, and other surrounding parishes.

Mid City is really the last bastion of real NOLA culture in New Orleans proper. Uptown has become generic hipster douche with "Nola!" painted on the surface. Bywater, FQ, Marigny haven't resembled anything but hippie/hipster/weirdos from generic America who think that being "different" equates to "unique New Orleans."

The current Nolier than Thou crowd wouldn't know actual New Orleans culture if it slapped them across the face. It's why they often whine about Metairie and other places that actually still retain the real culture to some extent.
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