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re: CDC says vaccinated people can transmit covid just as easily

Posted on 7/29/21 at 6:31 am to
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 6:31 am to
Gotcha
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 6:34 am to
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What is the reason now that we know anyone can spread it?


Because vaccinated people have been shown to have much less serious symptoms

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We don’t stop people from smoking even though it will kill them. Why do we care if they choose to take their chances with covid?


This is where I’m at. Continuously publish real data showing hospitalizations and deaths and make sure it’s broken out as to % vaccinated and unvaccinated.

Stop all the fear mongering, stop the guilt trips, stop the nanny state. Let people make their own calls. If you don’t want to mitigate the hospitalization risk, that’s on you. You own it.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 6:36 am to
That’s where I’ve been since March 2020.

The irony here is that if we had just done what we’ve always done when a novel virus appears, this thing would be over by now. We didn’t need to lockdown the entire population and now it’s backfiring.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
39908 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 6:37 am to
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An asymptomatic person isn’t spreading the virus


An asymptomatic vaccinated or asymptomatic unvaccinated?

Also, according to new cdc guidelines, apparently they can.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
39908 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 6:38 am to
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That’s where I’ve been since March 2020. The irony here is that if we had just done what we’ve always done when a novel virus appears, this thing would be over by now. We didn’t need to lockdown the entire population and now it’s backfiring.


Bingo
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 6:39 am to
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Also, according to new cdc guidelines, apparently they can.
The new guidelines just mention what was already known. Asymptomatic literally means that you’re carrying a virus but simply not showing symptoms. If you’re carrying it, you can spread it. That simple, obvious fact seems to be too difficult to understand for some people.
Posted by demtigers73
Coastal Club
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 6:41 am to
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Isn’t this based on a study covering data on a vaccine unavailable in America (I.e., the Indian Vaccine), a study which was ultimately rejected in peer review?

Good work, CDC.

They’re going to never let us go!


This right here!

Study is shite and the vaccine they used is shite!

Thread is in turn shite!
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
39908 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 6:47 am to


Alex needs to report back in 2 weeks. If the cases keep rising but hospitalizations don’t, we have hard proof case numbers are a bullshite metric to track and make decisions on and proof vaccines mitigate serious symptoms.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
83585 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 6:50 am to
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NO it's not. The vax does nothing. Sorry to all of you who've participated as guinea pigs. Keep us posted on how the rest of your life goes, medically.


This is the middle aged man equivalent to a masked profile picture

Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86739 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 6:50 am to
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we have hard proof case numbers are a bullshite metric to track and make decisions on and proof vaccines mitigate serious symptoms.
We already know both of these things as fact but people are dumb and naive.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
39908 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 6:51 am to
You and I know these things. It seems like our government knows half and and a lot of internet knows the other half. It’s fricking nuts
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86739 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 6:53 am to
The government knows it too. But when are facts and honesty something they care about?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
39908 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 6:53 am to
Is say a year or two before the beginning of time
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
83585 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 6:56 am to
The government has been scared to tell us the truth throughout this. “No don’t tell them masks could work then they’ll think they’re bulletproof!” “No don’t tell them symptomatic people do the huge bulk of the spreading, they’ll go out and party”

Americans are stupid. But that is made worse by a stupid government trying to steer citizen behavior instead of distributing the best information available and letting people decide for themselves.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 6:58 am to
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So is the CDC just recommending these guideline changes out of an abundance of caution? If you don’t spread COVID-19 as asymptomatic and most/large amount of vaccinated people are asymptomatic, why are they recommending vaccinated people get tested even if asymptomatic?


The vaccine was never promoted as being 100% effective, even against the original strain. It’s less effective against Delta. As a result, if you’re exposed with or without the vaccine, you can still catch it, so you should get tested according to the CDC. However, it’s still considerably less likely that you’ll catch it with the vaccine.

Vaccinated people cannot transmit the virus as easily as the unvaccinated. The thread title and conclusion is simply wrong. You’re far less likely to carry it if you’re vaccinated, so no, you cannot transmit it as easily if you’re not as likely to catch it in the first place.
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Winnfield, LA
Member since Jul 2008
22904 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 7:01 am to
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you don’t want to mitigate the hospitalization risk, that’s on you. You own it.


Except for the rest of the population that has to pay for it either in the form of medicaid/medicare via taxes or higher premiums if the member getting admitted is a commercial plan holder.

Anti-vaxxers are exacerbating the cost of healthcare with preventable inpatient admissions and avoidable lab tests.
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 7:02 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 7:02 am to
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But I thought asymptomatic vaccinated individuals can’t spread it. Is that no longer the case? How did they prove it in 21 days since it was July 8th that they recommended vaccinated asymptomatic people do not need to get tested.

Yeah if they were wrong, that's such a huge fail. And if they're lying now, that's some legit authoritarianism.
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8660 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 7:02 am to
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This just proves my point

The vaccinated are fine. So why do you care what anyone else does. It’s their health their life.

And we now know a vaccinated or an unvaccinated person can give it to you.





You're right. If I run a company, I should just expect to have large groups of staff out sick or quarantined due to their unwillingness to avoid an avoidable disease. As a responsible employee, I should just be willing to pick up their workload and do more.

It doesn't affect me!

Antivax crowd was comprised of society's parasites before, so it's not difficult to see why...
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86739 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 7:04 am to
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You’re far less likely to carry it if you’re vaccinated, so no, you cannot transmit it as easily if you’re not as likely to catch it in the first place.
This is false. You still catch it. You still get the virus in your system and can spread it. It’s why so many “cases” are asymptomatic people who got the vaccine. What the vaccine does is teach the immune system to eradicate it when you DO catch it. The viral load is lower. Yes, that makes you less likely to spread it because you are carrying fewer virus cells and they’re in your system for a shorter time, but you can still spread it just as easily. That’s the difference.
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 7:07 am
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
71568 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 7:08 am to
honest question. who controls the cdc?
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