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CBS: What is a ghost gun?
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:13 am
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:13 am
I had not heard of this term until recently. So this will be an educational thread for some of us.
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CBS News
APRIL 11, 2022 / 3:24 PM / CBS NEWS
The Biden administration unveiled new regulations for "ghost guns" Monday in a move that advocates say will help reduce gun violence. The new rules will help law enforcement track and trace these firearms, which authorities say are increasingly involved in crimes.
Ghost guns are unregistered and untraceable homemade weapons that can be made with a 3D printer or assembled from a kit. According to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, such weapons are contributing to a rise in gun violence, reported CBS News' Jeff Pegues in February. The weapons can be produced for less than $200, though officials have put the average price at around $500.
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Why authorities say ghost guns are dangerous
While ghost guns are only a fraction of the firearms involved in gun crimes, law enforcement across the country are pointing the finger at ghost guns as a growing problem.
"They're trying to appeal to a certain segment of the population," Dave Hamilton, then a senior special agent ATF, told Evans in 2018. "Felons who can't go to a gun store and legally purchase a firearm, or people who just don't want the government knowing what type of firearms they have."
A senior administration official said the ATF was able to trace fewer than 1% of the approximately 45,000 ghost guns recovered during criminal investigations between January 2016 and December 2021, reported CBS News' Bo Erickson. Almost 700 of the incidents were homicides or attempted homicides, the official said.
Ghost guns have been involved in school shootings, such as one in Saugus, California, where a 16-year-old killed four people, and in mass shootings, like one in Northern California where a 44-year-old used a ghost gun to kill five people despite a court order prohibiting him from having guns.
The new regulations would mandate kits include serial numbers, and people who sell them would have to be federally licensed and run a background check on people purchasing kits. They would also be required to keep records of those purchases for as long as they're in business, rather than the 20 years under current requirements.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:13 am to goofball
I bet there are a lot of 3D Printers in New Orleans East. Big problem, I'm told.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:14 am to goofball
Once again, they ignore the real issue. Hood rats shooting hood rats with stolen guns
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:20 am to goofball
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ghost guns are only a fraction of the firearms involved in gun crimes
Okay. So why not focus on enforcing the law and restoring order in American cities instead?
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:21 am to goofball
"Not wanting the government knowing what type of firearm they have "
So?
That isn't the governments business.
So?
That isn't the governments business.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:21 am to goofball
I lost all my ghost guns in a terrible boating accident.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:22 am to Fun Bunch
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I bet there are a lot of 3D Printers in New Orleans East. Big problem, I'm told
Not that they are being used, but NOLA libraries have them.
Good info fo regular people to have.
This post was edited on 4/12/22 at 9:22 am
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:22 am to goofball
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, or people who just don't want the government knowing what type of firearms they have."
Its absolutely none of their business.
Firearms registries just make it easier for law enforcement, it does nothing for the citizenry.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:23 am to SmokePurpleLiveGold2
By the way, do ghost bullets hurt anyone besides ghosts?
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:23 am to fightin tigers
They are solely doing this because they realized that good ole boys have added millions of AR’s to their stashes by building 80% lowers. Watch and see you won’t be able to order a complete upper shipped to your house anymore
This post was edited on 4/12/22 at 9:24 am
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:24 am to goofball
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unregistered and untraceable homemade weapons that can be made with a 3D printer or assembled from a kit.
IIRC there was a movie staring John Malkovich and Clint Eastwood where the bad guy made a gun out of plastic and tried to kill the president. Probably 30 years old now at this point. So the idea of making untraceable guns, isn't a new phenomenon.
I think the bigger problem is criminals using guns acquired in burglaries, either home break ins or car break ins.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:24 am to goofball
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Ghost guns
So spooky

Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:25 am to goofball
That’s just a term for a firearm that does not have a serial number on it. With the advent of modern-day ballistics analysis, you can identify every bullet shot by every gun, so I don’t think serial numbers matter much anymore.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:25 am to goofball
Ghost gun is the new assault weapon..
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:25 am to beulahland
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"Not wanting the government knowing what type of firearm they have "
So?
That isn't the governments business.
If they want to know about my firearms, they can dig them all up from the lake bed in False River.
Too bad we couldn't get the boat back in before that storm kicked up those big waves. Still upsets me.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:26 am to goofball
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While ghost guns are only a fraction of the firearms involved in gun crimes, law enforcement across the country are pointing the finger at ghost guns as a growing problem.
Translation: they're essentially 0% of the weapons involved in gun crime
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:26 am to Hangover Haven
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Ghost gun is the new assault weapon..
Pretty much. A bunch of activist laypeople learned a new term and will misuse it to the point of nausea.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:27 am to fr33manator
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Once again, they ignore the real issue. Hood rats shooting hood rats with stolen guns
Maybe they don't care about hood rats shooting hood rats, they just have to act like they do.
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