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re: Catholics to excommunicate priests who follows Washington law about reporting child abuse
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:16 am to 777Tiger
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:16 am to 777Tiger
quote:At the public library and the church I work at now - I’ve been required to be a mandated reporter
and journalists, and short pedo docs!!!
I’m a nobody.
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Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:18 am to jizzle6609
quote:
yalls churches sound more fun but I am not here for fun. I am here for the Lord.
Take a breather baw. A whole lot of people are here for the Lord that aren’t Catholic.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:18 am to GreenRockTiger
quote:
I’ve been required to be a mandated reporter
snitches get.....
quote:
I’m a nobody.
not true at all whitey
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:19 am to GreenRockTiger
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At the public library and the church I work at now - I’ve been required to be a mandated reporter
I’m a nobody.
Priests are mandated reporters as well. For anything known to them outside the Sacrament of Reconciliation.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:19 am to 777Tiger
Most of the snitching I’ve done has been on PARENTS.
Unfortunately
Unfortunately
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:20 am to Scruffy
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Are they legally required to report a crime if it has been committed and they were told by a client they they did the crime?
No. That falls under attorney/client privilege. They're actually legally required to not divulge any information that is privileged in their conversations with their clients.
Attorneys are not only required by law but will lose their license and face much more severe penalty if they know or reasonably believe that their client will commit FUTURE crime and do not report it.
This post was edited on 5/7/25 at 11:24 am
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:20 am to GreenRockTiger
quote:
Most of the snitching I’ve done has been on PARENTS.
you can't leave us hanging, deets?
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:21 am to CapitalTiger
quote:yes, sweetie pie, I work for the Church
Priests are mandated reporters as well.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:22 am to Sterling Archer
Forgiveness of sins is the most revolutionary teaching of Jesus. He literally forgave a real criminal hanging on the cross beside him as he made an act of faith.
As such, it is not the job of the priest to do other than forgive even the most heinous crimes in the confessional if the penitent is attempting to repent. Only in grave circumstances should a priest refuse to grant absolution.
Many will say, "priests should be held to the same standard as teachers." But, this doesn't work because teachers aren't generally basing their decisions to report on self-reporting by the accused. Instead, they are seeing other evidence (bruises, malnutrition, or something like the victim coming forth). These types of things are not what happens in confession.
The seal of the confessional is absolute and it must remain so. If I were a priest in Washington, I would stop any face-to-face confessions to make sure the state would never be able to prove I knew who was the penitent.
(Oh, and many priests have told me that God gives them the grace to not remember anything that was told to them in the confessional.)
As such, it is not the job of the priest to do other than forgive even the most heinous crimes in the confessional if the penitent is attempting to repent. Only in grave circumstances should a priest refuse to grant absolution.
Many will say, "priests should be held to the same standard as teachers." But, this doesn't work because teachers aren't generally basing their decisions to report on self-reporting by the accused. Instead, they are seeing other evidence (bruises, malnutrition, or something like the victim coming forth). These types of things are not what happens in confession.
The seal of the confessional is absolute and it must remain so. If I were a priest in Washington, I would stop any face-to-face confessions to make sure the state would never be able to prove I knew who was the penitent.
(Oh, and many priests have told me that God gives them the grace to not remember anything that was told to them in the confessional.)
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:23 am to 777Tiger
quote:
you can't leave us hanging, deets?
nope
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:23 am to Scruffy
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Are they legally required to report a crime if it has been committed and they were told by a client they they did the crime?
No, but if they were that would fundamentally change the entire legal system considering law is a peculiarity in this instance - as in, the person being told the secret may be the person representing the accused against the legal implications of the secret. That dynamic obviously isn't the same with clergy.
I'm not a lawyer who believes we're some higher calling, but I do think that's a limitation with a sensible basis.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:23 am to ibldprplgld
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The Church choosing to dig in on protecting the confessions of child abusers doesn’t advance that agenda at all.
How many child abusers do you think are actually going to confession? And even if one of them did go, wouldn’t you assume they were going because they believed their sins would be forgiven? And if they truly believed this, wouldn’t they also care about following through on what the priest tells them they have to do in order to be absolved of their sins? Do you see where I’m going with this?
Use your head next time
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:24 am to LPLGTiger
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Take a breather baw. A whole lot of people are here for the Lord that aren’t Catholic.
Im just getting started.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:24 am to Sterling Archer
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These people are the scum of the earth
The pedophiles who exist within the Catholic priesthood, and their superiors who protect them? They certainly are.
Also, the parishioners who continue to fund said activities.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:24 am to AbitaFan08
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That falls under attorney/client privilege. They're actually legally required to not divulge any information that is privileged in their conversations with their clients.
is that also true for spouses subpoenaed to testify against their spouse? or is that just a TV crime show thing?
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:25 am to GreenRockTiger
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nope
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:25 am to Thorny
quote:many priests have told me this, too
many priests have told me that God gives them the grace to not remember anything that was told to them in the confessional.
But I still do not go to confession with the priest I work for
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:25 am to Sterling Archer
Catholic Church is officially over the edge.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:27 am to 777Tiger
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is that also true for spouses subpoenaed to testify against their spouse? or is that just a TV crime show thing?
In criminal matters only, spousal privilege is a real thing. However, the spouse CAN testify against their partner if they choose, but they cannot be compelled to do so (there are exceptions, but I'm speaking in generalities)
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:27 am to Golfer1865
quote:the utility bills have to be paid at Catholic Churches, too
the parishioners who continue to fund said activities.
I also like to get paid for my work at the church
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