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re: Carolyn Bryant Donham, whose accusations led to murder of Emmett Till, dies at 88
Posted on 4/27/23 at 4:43 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 4/27/23 at 4:43 pm to lsupride87
True, “initially” was the wrong word to use. It’s been speculated that she was coached to testify at the trial that Till put his hands on her. Which is what I meant by physically accosted.
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Posted on 4/27/23 at 4:45 pm to TomJoadGhost
I 100% beleive she was coached at the trial, and likely threatened by her psychopath husband
I just think it’s simple minded humans who hold the woman here accountable knowing the times and story. The villains were the murderers and jurors
I just think it’s simple minded humans who hold the woman here accountable knowing the times and story. The villains were the murderers and jurors
Posted on 4/27/23 at 4:51 pm to lsupride87
Just another example where people apply today’s standards to incident from decades ago. Women at that time didn’t have many more rights than blacks, even white women. I don’t agree with her claiming to be as much of a victim as Till, but she was a victim in the ordeal.
It’ll be interesting to see if her memoir gets released.
It’ll be interesting to see if her memoir gets released.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 4:52 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Bryant also alleged that one of Till's companions came into the store, grabbed him by the arm, and ordered him to leave
He knew what was gonna happen.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 4:56 pm to lsupride87
quote:So it’s OK to yell “Fire” in a crowded theater full of folks who are scared to death of fire?
I mean Occam’s razor works well on this case
Till likely did something juvenile and relatively harmless and being from the north didn’t think that much of it (flirted, whistled, said a joke you name it)
White woman from 50s in MS took offense
Absolutely vile despicable human of a husband violently gets a group and murders till
I would say with extreme confidence the truth isn’t far from the above. So I’m struggling to see the reasoning for the woman being enemy #1 and moreso, what her crime was to be arrested
A reasonable person should have know what her allegation would lead to in 1955 Money, MS.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 5:02 pm to lsupride87
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During the murder trial,[note 1] Bryant testified that Till grabbed her hand while she was stocking candy and said, "How about a date, baby?" She said that after she freed herself from his grasp, the young man followed her to the cash register, grabbed her waist and said, "What's the matter baby, can't you take it?"Bryant said she freed herself, and Till said, "You needn't be afraid of me, baby",used "one 'unprintable' word"and said "I've been with white women before."Bryant also alleged that one of Till's companions came into the store, grabbed him by the arm, and ordered him to leave.
Yeah, like a black teen in the 60s would have done any of that. frick that lying bitch.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 5:06 pm to soccerfüt
quote:She didn’t tell her husband……
So it’s OK to yell “Fire” in a crowded theater full of folks who are scared to death of fire? A reasonable person should have know what her allegation would lead to in 1955 Money, MS.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 5:07 pm to BayouBlitz
quote:There were black teens in the 50s and 60s that murdered white people, raped white people, etc. So yes, I think it’s possible one simply flirted with a white person. The present day acceptance that white people were all evil and sadistic and black people were perfectly innocent victims for ALL occasions is a modern day Hollywood gimic
Yeah, like a black teen in the 60s would have done any of that
You are trying to simply this case to Disney levels of white vs black to make it an easier story for you to digest
The murdered were as evil as evil gets, and so were the jurors that let them walk. You don’t need to manufacture outrage for others here
This post was edited on 4/27/23 at 5:16 pm
Posted on 4/27/23 at 5:16 pm to soccerfüt
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So it’s OK to yell “Fire” in a crowded theater full of folks who are scared to death of fire?
Why are they all scared of fire?
Posted on 4/27/23 at 5:20 pm to lsupride87
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You are trying to simply this case to Disney levels of white vs black to make it an easier story for you to digest
Uhhh…I think you’re doing that.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 5:22 pm to lsupride87
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You are trying to simply this case to Disney levels of white vs black to make it an easier story for you to digest
lol
Posted on 4/27/23 at 5:24 pm to whoa
No, I giving just an ounce , a tiny ounce of nuance, and smooth brains can’t handle it. They want every white individual involved to be a monster. It makes it simple. Easy.
Ask yourself why didn’t she tell her husband, and instead someone else did?
And realize once he committed the murder based on what SOMEONE else told him, she is now the wife to a man about yo be tried for murder. And this is 1950s bumfrick MS. She was as dead as a doornail for being a n***** lover if she didn’t say exactly what her husband wanted her to say at this point
100% her victim status is nothing of tills, but she absolutely went through shite because of this ordeal too
Ask yourself why didn’t she tell her husband, and instead someone else did?
And realize once he committed the murder based on what SOMEONE else told him, she is now the wife to a man about yo be tried for murder. And this is 1950s bumfrick MS. She was as dead as a doornail for being a n***** lover if she didn’t say exactly what her husband wanted her to say at this point
100% her victim status is nothing of tills, but she absolutely went through shite because of this ordeal too
Posted on 4/27/23 at 5:34 pm to lsupride87
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100% her victim status is nothing of tills, but she absolutely went through shite because of this ordeal too
Yes, she seems so distraught about Till's death.
When the “not guilty” verdict came on Sept. 23, 1955, “we breathed a collective sigh of relief and joy,” Donham said.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 5:38 pm to SoonerK
quote:Wow what a bombshell. Wife in the 1950s says she is happy her husband didn’t go to jail.
Yes, she seems so distraught about Till's death. When the “not guilty” verdict came on Sept. 23, 1955, “we breathed a collective sigh of relief and joy,” Donham said.
The poster above was correct when he said people are applying modern logic to the past
She as a woman barely had higher standing than black men did. If she would have stood up as a virtue for justice like y’all are proposing, she would have likely saw the same fate as Till from her husband and crew
Sure, that would have been the “right” thing to do, but it’s looking through a modern scope that just isn’t realistic for a woman back then.
To me, her not telling her husband about whatever happened in the store shows me where here actual moral compass was
This post was edited on 4/27/23 at 5:39 pm
Posted on 4/27/23 at 5:40 pm to lsupride87
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Ask yourself why didn’t she tell her husband, and instead someone else did?
In the FBI report on the incident, they mention that a person with a voice 'lighter than a man's' was the one who actually identifies Till when Bryant and Miliam show up to Mose Wright's house. Apparently Bryant picked up two other black kids who Bryant-Donham said were not Till. It seems odd that you are insisting on adding nuance when all you've really done has been to whitewash this of nuance. Hint, having real details that have sources can help drive nuance based discussions. Maybe you should learn to do that before you start lecturing on it.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 5:41 pm to lsupride87
Not really. She’s a fricking liar who conjured up this story so that she wouldn’t have to be stuck working at the family store. Do your research & stop spouting off bullshite.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 5:41 pm to Reservoir dawg
I know racism has been alive and well long before Mississippi was Mississippi.America was put on a crash course in "Catch up" with the rest of history as far as progression goes. Its one of the thihngs that makes this country great, but it also has been responsible for some horrible atrosities. During the integration of Ole Miss, half of the South was losing up in anything rolling with pots and pans heading to oxford. People thought they were on the right side of things. Sign of the time. Unfortunately
Posted on 4/27/23 at 5:41 pm to John88
Here is my guess at what happened that day:
1. She was minding her own business.
2. Emmitt whistled at her or flirted with her.
3. She thought he was cute or was flattered by the flirting.
4. Someone else saw it and told on them to her husband.
5. Redneck husband goes into rage and confronts her.
6. She lies and expresses how “afraid” she was of Emmitt still in order to get out of trouble from an aggressive husband. (Thought he would beat her for liking it).
7. Crazy redneck husband and crazy redneck friends kill him.
1. She was minding her own business.
2. Emmitt whistled at her or flirted with her.
3. She thought he was cute or was flattered by the flirting.
4. Someone else saw it and told on them to her husband.
5. Redneck husband goes into rage and confronts her.
6. She lies and expresses how “afraid” she was of Emmitt still in order to get out of trouble from an aggressive husband. (Thought he would beat her for liking it).
7. Crazy redneck husband and crazy redneck friends kill him.
Posted on 4/27/23 at 5:42 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:And who do they mention actually let the husband know anything took place at all? And how much later was that?
In the FBI report on the incident, they mention that a person with a voice 'lighter than a man's' was the one who actually identifies Till when Bryant and Miliam show up to Mose Wright's house
Before trying to sound twice as smart as everyone else with your long winded typing, maybe try and understand what part of the story is even being discussed
This post was edited on 4/27/23 at 5:42 pm
Posted on 4/27/23 at 5:43 pm to lsupride87
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She as a woman barely had higher standing than black men did. If she would have stood up as a virtue for justice like y’all are proposing, she would have likely saw the same fate as Till from her husband and crew
No way you really believe this
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