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re: Cardiac Deaths are more Frequent

Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:07 am to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:07 am to
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There's a reason dems are losing members at a higher rate.


Anyone that questions your stupidity is a dem
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:08 am to
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So you're a partisan moron. Got it.


It's funny that you would say this after i paint a scenario where POTATUS would lie on stage about a irrefutable fact. I guess i'm just not stupid enough to believe Democrats/Leftists when they talk.
This post was edited on 10/20/22 at 11:08 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:09 am to
Unfortunately one of the only reasons the republicans aren’t dominating is the old idiots in congress clinging to their social issues that nobody gives a frick about now and those of the like of the PT board that make it an easy target for Dems
This post was edited on 10/20/22 at 11:10 am
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:09 am to
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Pretty sure it's accepted and peer reviewed.


Keep em coming. Unlike most, i'm capable of unabashedly calling out the stupidity of the average leftist no matter how many "mean words" you throw at me.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:10 am to
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Some of us are pretty ignorant of medical intricacies (which is apparent in all of these COVID threads). When I hear the term long, I always assume it means over an extended period of time. Apparently, from your explanation here it could also mean effects into the future that are from signs/symptoms evident now.
I don't think there's a medical definition for "long covid". I think it's just a descriptive term for the effects that linger after the respiratory infection has cleared. "Long" could be weeks, months, or years. It could be related to the lungs, heart, or any other organ.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:11 am to
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i'm capable of unabashedly calling out the stupidity of the average leftist no matter how many "mean words" you throw at me.




By "calling out," you mean doing the exact same stupid things they do, right?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:11 am to
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Unfortunately one of the only reasons the republicans aren’t dominating is the old idiots in congress clinging to their social issues that nobody gives a frick about now


Only "social issue" republicans are talking about is abortion, and that's a human life issue.

Republicans aren't even campaigning on abortion. They are, rightfully, campaigning on the economy, violence in lib cities, and the left's disastrous energy policies. POTATUS is the one who is trying to make the mid terms about abortion and is failing mightily at that.
Posted by i am dan
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Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:11 am to
Thanks for the graphs. The first one showing a pretty damn good incline on murders over the two years stopping on 2020.

The second stops in 2018.

Things were bad 30-40 years ago. Creeping back up.

Just an example: one year
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Overall index crime in New York City increased in July 2022, by 30.5% compared with July 2021 (11,619 v. 8,906).Aug 5, 2022


Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:12 am to
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By "calling out," you mean doing the exact same stupid things they do, right?



What's next, i know you are but what am i?
Posted by i am dan
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Member since Aug 2011
30245 posts
Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:13 am to
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Way to change the topic there pal


Sorry you missed my point.

I was making an argument to not believe everything coming out of this administration, because they are full of shite.
This post was edited on 10/20/22 at 11:14 am
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:14 am to
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Do you agree that the vaccine could be causing the same damage? Or that a combination of covid and the vaccine could as well?


Vaccines work by causing an immune response similar to an actual infection. There are risks with every vaccine.

Given the number of actual covid infections and the resulting deaths and complications, and given the number of vaccines administered and the resulting deaths and complications, what do you think of the relative risk?

How deep into the concept of risk assessment do we need to get?



You did not answer my question(s), at all.

This post was edited on 10/20/22 at 11:15 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:14 am to
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It's funny that you would say this after i paint a scenario where POTATUS would lie on stage about a irrefutable fact


No, you said you would argue that the sky was blue if Biden was the one to say it.
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I guess i'm just not stupid enough to believe Democrats/Leftists when they talk.




Turns out you're plenty stupid.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29043 posts
Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:16 am to
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You did not answer my question(s), at all.
Yes I did. Can you restate or rephrase the question you think I didn't answer?
Posted by i am dan
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Member since Aug 2011
30245 posts
Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:17 am to
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Unfortunately one of the only reasons the republicans aren’t dominating is the old idiots in congress clinging to their social issues that nobody gives a frick about now and those of the like of the PT board that make it an easy target for Dems


What social issues are they clinging on because I haven't really seen that.

Oh did CNN say Republicans want to bring back Jim Crowe 2.0 again? I probably see where you went wrong.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:19 am to
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I think it's certainly plausible. But just as we see greater incidence of things like myocarditis from covid infection, I would posit that the instances of these cardiac effects are higher with infection than vaccine. Since most of these acute effects seem to be triggered by something with the spike protein, it would make sense, but the effects would be short-term and fairly quick to see. Any longer-term issues would likely be related to the physiological stress brought on by acute respiratory distress during an infection. That's not a vaccine characteristic.



Nice theory. Would you agree, like any other theory, that we should be researching the increases in deaths from all causes to see if we can determine commonality, correlation, and cause? Or, like so many, do we dismiss any thought that the vaccine could be contributory?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107906 posts
Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:19 am to
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What social issues are they clinging on because I haven't really seen that. Oh did CNN say Republicans want to bring back Jim Crowe 2.0 again? I probably see where you went wrong.
Bury your head

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Senator Lindsey Graham proposed legislation on Tuesday for a nationwide 15-week abortion ban, a politically risky strategy as a backlash grows to the US supreme court ruling earlier this summer overturning federal protections for the procedure.
Thats a sitting duck target for the Dems to run with

“Republicans aiming for nationwide abortion ban”

fricking idiots
This post was edited on 10/20/22 at 11:21 am
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71165 posts
Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:21 am to
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No, I am not confusing nothing.

I'm not sure if you're trolling, or if you're legitimate, but neither motivation is reason enough for using a triple negative. Try to do better.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:21 am to
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Yeah, no congenital heart defects in the two examples I gave.


You stated above that neither was seeing a cardiologist, so I'm really curious how you would know. There's a LOT your primary care physician will not pick up on a typical stethoscope listen. And we have a bunch of folks here who have posted about being proud to not have seen any doctors in years, soooo.....

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One day we may figure out who was right.


Or, better yet........quit worrying about it. I don't care. Gonna live my life and not lose a bit of sleep over it. I've got nearly $1.5mil in life insurance for the better part of the next 30 years (I'm 42). If I die, my family is SET.

Life is good.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
8957 posts
Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:23 am to
I should take your response of "there are risks with every vaccine" to indicate that you agree that the vaccine or a combination of the vaccine and covid could be causing some of these deaths?
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58422 posts
Posted on 10/20/22 at 11:23 am to
I’ve considered getting the vax but it seems like all these vax deaths only happen in healthy happy people with bright futures not people like me
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