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re: Can someone tell me how airlines set their prices?
Posted on 1/14/16 at 3:53 pm to Red Stick Tigress
Posted on 1/14/16 at 3:53 pm to Red Stick Tigress
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The same flight with just the LAX to MSY portion was close to $200.
Go figure that one out.
Because hidden city ticketing is technically breaking the Contract of Carriage with the airline. So they do have the ability to enforce penalties or ban you from the airline should they desire.
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 3:53 pm to WG_Dawg
Southwest is running some killer promotions between certain hubs, and if you book 14 days in advance.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 3:58 pm to WG_Dawg
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Is there a site or way to find flights sorted by layover? Like, could I find a trip from Atlanta to [anywhere] that lays over in memphis and do the same thing of just not taking the 2nd leg?
As golfer suggested, I wouldn't do hidden city flights twice within a weekend. That is likely asking for any future reservation to be scrutinized by delta or cancelled.
When memphis was still a hub for DL, you likely could've found a cheap connection through there. However, the only flights they have look like LGA, ATL, DTW, CVG, and LAX. In looking for a multicity ticket on Sep 22 or 23 for ATL-MEM-XXX, everything's above $500 so not worth it.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 3:59 pm to WG_Dawg
Phase 1: Collect Underpants
Phase 3: Profit
Phase 3: Profit
Posted on 1/14/16 at 4:00 pm to Red Stick Tigress
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I found him a one way $122 fare and booked the flight from LAX to Houston Hobby. This flight stopped in New Orleans before backtracking to Houston.
Your friend does know that if he checks a bag in LA it will end up in Houston right? Tell him to only bring a carryon bag
Posted on 1/14/16 at 4:05 pm to CuseTiger
I have a friend who had a kid at St. Jude's in Memphis. Kid would drive up with Mom on Wednesday for treatment Thursday-Saturday then they would drive back to BR. Dad would fly up on Friday's BTR-MEM when they had the direct, but book a continued flight on. He got away with it about 6 times before Delta called.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 4:10 pm to Golfer
Southwest still not in Memphis ?
Posted on 1/14/16 at 4:14 pm to Golfer
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Dad would fly up on Friday's BTR-MEM when they had the direct, but book a continued flight on. He got away with it about 6 times before Delta called.
6 times is pretty good to save I'm guessing $1,000. How many years since that direct BTR-MEM was still running? I remember seeing it once right after I started grad school here. My go to after spring skiing was always DEN-MEM-MSY, flight was usually under $100 for a one-way and DEN-MEM was always empty
Posted on 1/14/16 at 4:33 pm to WG_Dawg
OP, if you're going to do the hidden city ticketing don't check a bag.
This may have been obvious but people sometimes miss the details.
This may have been obvious but people sometimes miss the details.
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 1/14/16 at 4:42 pm to yellowfin
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Southwest still not in Memphis ?
I think they are, but they really aren't a discount airline anymore.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:56 pm to CuseTiger
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Your friend does know that if he checks a bag in LA it will end up in Houston right? Tell him to only bring a carryon bag
He only went home for Christmas. Travelled light.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:14 am to CuseTiger
quote:i bet that's an awkward time trying to get your bags back if you screw that up
Your friend does know that if he checks a bag in LA it will end up in Houston right? Tell him to only bring a carryon bag
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:27 am to WG_Dawg
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Some people and I are looking at preliminary plans of taking a trip this year. So I go to some flight websites and a nonstop flight from Atlanta is currently like $450. No thanks. However, a buddy who would be coming from Charlotte said that his flight (on the same dates, to the same place) had a layover in Atlanta and it was only $200!
Wtf? What is the rationale behind this? His trip will involve multiple flights, more gas, more time, and will layover in our city yet his is half the price as ours. I don't get it.
just to be clear, you are asking why a high demand ticket is expensive?
I mean how many people could want to travel from ATL to MEM for a GA vs. OM game. They have X number of seats and want the maximum value they can get, sort of like every business on earth.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:36 am to WG_Dawg
Collusion
Posted on 1/15/16 at 6:15 am to WG_Dawg
I have a related question.
Remember how airlines added a baggage fee to anything you wouldn't carry on? $20 a bag?
That was from the high gas prices. How come that fee has never gone away?
Has it now turned into a convenience tax?
Remember how airlines added a baggage fee to anything you wouldn't carry on? $20 a bag?
That was from the high gas prices. How come that fee has never gone away?
Has it now turned into a convenience tax?
Posted on 1/15/16 at 6:18 am to Pectus
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$20 a bag?
It's more than $20, maybe $25 and if the bags are heavy I think they get charged even more.
Why don't they charge fat people extra fare?
Posted on 1/15/16 at 6:42 am to Red Stick Tigress
quote:I'm more of a glass-half-full person, why not rebate to lighter people? (Weight-wise, not skin color!)
Why don't they charge fat people extra fare?
Posted on 1/15/16 at 6:42 am to WG_Dawg
It basically is available seats per mile divided by costs per available seats per mile. So if a plane has 30 seats and is traveling 100 miles that is 3,000 available seats per mile. If it were a 1000 that is 30,000. That number is divided by the costs per mile. The lower the ratio the closer to break even for the flight and that ratio drives the price per available seats mile.
Using these formulas it is easy to see why non-stops can be more expensive. Also, it is the aircrafts mileage that matters not yours. So one plane who flies coast to coast with no stops should have a higher price per mile than one who has 5 stops on the same route because there is a higher chance of selling more tickets (people get off and on and not just one fatass in the same seat the entire time.) Hub flying is usually cheaper too because of the shared savings of gates, ground crews etc. Of course, also into this goes demand factors.
Using these formulas it is easy to see why non-stops can be more expensive. Also, it is the aircrafts mileage that matters not yours. So one plane who flies coast to coast with no stops should have a higher price per mile than one who has 5 stops on the same route because there is a higher chance of selling more tickets (people get off and on and not just one fatass in the same seat the entire time.) Hub flying is usually cheaper too because of the shared savings of gates, ground crews etc. Of course, also into this goes demand factors.
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 6:45 am
Posted on 1/15/16 at 6:52 am to Red Stick Tigress
Yeah, but my point is...why haven't bag prices been removed since the gas prices have dropped (2008/2009).
Posted on 1/15/16 at 7:30 am to Pectus
cause airlines are trying to make money.
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