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re: California fast food workers to get $20 minimum wage under new deal

Posted on 9/11/23 at 4:58 pm to
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15203 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 4:58 pm to
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Yes the market dictates the value of someone’s work, not the person. My lord you’re an idiot.


Evidently not. That’s what this entire discussion is. Why are you angry at fast food employees getting a better wage?
Posted by LSU Neil
Springfield
Member since Feb 2007
3012 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 4:58 pm to
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I’ve 40 people under my employ, mostly low skilled, low earning. I’d venture to guess I have a better grasp on this than you


First of all, you sound very emotionally invested in California McDonald’s workers making $20 bucks an hour.
In fact you seem extremely emotional to the point of being irrational.
So, let me get this straight, you insinuate you yourself actually employee 30 low skill, low income people, yet you are fighting to see to it that those unskilled workers in California get 20$ an hour to flip a burger?
So why don’t you pay your unskilled low paid workers a whole lot, so then they will be low skilled WELL PAID workers?
In fact, tomorrow morning I’d expect you to have a meeting and double your workers compensation. How bout that?
That would make you much happier.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
10245 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 5:00 pm to
He doesn’t employ anyone, he maybe manages some folks. I highly doubt it.
Posted by nugget
Abrego Garcia Fan
Member since Dec 2009
15306 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 5:01 pm to
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That would be great. If the unskilled folk are making 50$/hr. My skilled labor should be 5x that. Thanks.


So you want to inflate the currency making your past labor worthless and kill everyone who is retired and on a fixed income? Why did you never find it necessary to have a baseline understanding of economics?
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
26444 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 5:01 pm to
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Working on it. I eagerly await a valid response on how this will affect anyone posting in this discussion.


Artificially legislating wage increases, rather than allowing supply and demand economics to function at its natural equilibrium is one of the primary causes (along with the proliferation of unchecked/widely abused welfare programs that cause people not to work and drive labor participation down) of unsustainable inflation. It also causes labor to be replaced by automation and/or by other countries at a pace that the economic infrastructure of the US is not prepared for as well.

You SHOULD be able to see how this "will affect anyone [actually everyone] posting in this discussion" but you seem to lack even basic Econ 101 understanding, so maybe not. You probably think that we can just print more money to pay for everything (high wages, higher cost of good and services that come with it, which leads to the need for higher wages, which leads to higher cost of goods and services that comes with it, etc) by printing more money and you probably think things like the $33 trillion US debt, the downgrading of the US credit rating, and the replacement of the dollar as the stable currency of choice is not that big a deal.

I mean how is any of that stupid stuff going to affect anyone posting in this discussion, right?
This post was edited on 9/11/23 at 5:07 pm
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
10245 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 5:02 pm to
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Evidently not. That’s what this entire discussion is. Why are you angry at fast food employees getting a better wage?


If you actually were a business owner, you’d understand the economics of running a small business and the idiocy of forcing a higher wage because people feel like they deserve it.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15203 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 5:02 pm to
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So why don’t you pay your unskilled low paid workers a whole lot, so then they will be low skilled WELL PAID workers?


18$/hr is where people with zero experience start. I’m not invested in McDonalds, nor do I care. I only care about how silly some of you become when it comes to things that have zero bearing on your life.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
10245 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 5:03 pm to
Be careful with using logic, he’ll call you a fatty. Classic case of projection and low IQ
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
24858 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 5:04 pm to
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18$/hr is where people with zero experience start. I’m not invested in McDonalds, nor do I care. I only care about how silly some of you become when it comes to things that have zero bearing on your life.


Would it impact anyone if the govt said you had to pay them 24/hr?

Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
10245 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 5:04 pm to
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I only care about how silly some of you become when it comes to things that have zero bearing on your life.


This right here proves you don’t employ anyone. Carry on with your dumbassery
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15693 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 5:05 pm to
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things that have zero bearing on your life.


Have you ever taken an Economics course before?
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15203 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 5:06 pm to
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you actually were a business owner, you’d understand the economics of running a small business and the idiocy of forcing a higher wage because people feel like they deserve it.


I definitely understand it. I’ve zero qualms with some low skilled worker making 20$/hr. It will change what I do by 0.0%
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
150663 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 5:08 pm to
As if it wasn’t getting tougher to drop $15 on a shitty meal as it is.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
10245 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 5:08 pm to
How much is your monthly payroll for your “40” employees? If someone came in and forced you to pay each employee 5 more per hour, what impact does that have on your “business”?
This post was edited on 9/11/23 at 5:10 pm
Posted by redneck hippie
Stillwater
Member since Dec 2008
6058 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 5:10 pm to
Panda Express here in BFE Oklahoma is already starting at $16/hr.
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
8550 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 5:10 pm to
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Ms. Vilorio is in for a big surprise when they either replace her with a robot or close her store.


Or when her rent rises even faster because of sudden wage inflation.
Posted by Macfly
BR & DS
Member since Jan 2016
9557 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 5:12 pm to
Going to be well into double digits for a burger, drink and fries
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15203 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 5:12 pm to
Just shy of 145k/month. I’d roll it on the the customer, and if they feel the need not to participate. That’s their decision.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
10245 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 5:13 pm to
And Buccees pays their employees extremely well. The difference is they do it to recruit and retain great employees. They aren’t being forced to pay people that generally don’t give two shits about a job that is meant as a jumping off point not a career
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
10245 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 5:13 pm to
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Just shy of 145k/month. I’d roll it on the the customer, and if they feel the need not to participate. That’s their decision.



Jesus Christ you’re an idiot.
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