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re: Buying recapped tires.. trashy or smart? UPDATE: added pics from today
Posted on 1/28/16 at 7:52 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 1/28/16 at 7:52 pm to RogerTheShrubber
You and CAD have yet to post anything from anyone other than people with a vested interest in selling retreads. I've already shown that you're saving at most $96 on CAD'd tire size (and that's only if you happen to be local to Nashville) and less than $250 on a set of 275/55r20s. And those savings lose you any sort of mileage warranty. For a cost that only happens once every couple years, there's no incentive.
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Posted on 1/28/16 at 7:55 pm to LNCHBOX
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You and CAD have yet to post anything from anyone other than people with a vested interest in selling retreads. I've already shown that you're saving at most $96 on CAD'd tire size (and that's only if you happen to be local to Nashville) and less than $250 on a set of 275/55r20s. And those savings lose you any sort of mileage warranty. For a cost that only happens once every couple years, there's no incentive.
Some people have a very difficult time accepting anything that is beyond their scope of belief. I see a lot of that in this thread.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 7:56 pm to N2cars
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Read up on them and learn.
Retreads are for foolish people and you aren't foolish.
I've had exceptional success with them both in personal life and in business.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 7:57 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Whatever you say. You're right and we're all stupid. frick you're stubborn. 
Posted on 1/28/16 at 7:59 pm to LNCHBOX
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You're right and we're all stupid.
Thanks.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:00 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Matt King, president of King's Tire Service in Bluefield, W.V., a ContiLifeCycle retread dealer,
I bet if you asked a meth dealer if meth is good for you, he'd say absolutely.
Great source you got there.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:01 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Here's the thing:
Recaps don't change the age of the rubber in the sidewalls. Retreads don't re-invent physics. Retreads aren't manufactured to the same standard as the OEM.
All of the above statements are fact and all are reasons retreads fail at a higher rate than new tires.
Good luck.
Recaps don't change the age of the rubber in the sidewalls. Retreads don't re-invent physics. Retreads aren't manufactured to the same standard as the OEM.
All of the above statements are fact and all are reasons retreads fail at a higher rate than new tires.
Good luck.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:02 pm to N2cars
Don't bother. Much like CAD, he's been sold and will quote any retread dealer to prove you wrong.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:07 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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with a reputable recycler
No qualifications or oversight on who is or is not "reputable".
New tires have certain standards that must be met to achieve the DOT requirements. These include sampling, testing, and identification for new tires.
There is no regulation whatsoever for retread tires other than "guidelines" set by a self governing industry organization. The same one that generates your quotes.
Again, a cold vulcanized retread with a seam is not the same process as a hot galvanized tread ring adhered to the carcass. Which type of retread are you getting? Who knows.
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News Flash! Retreads are not the sole cause of tire debris on our highways.
I don't recall anyone in this thread saying that. I would posit that they contribute more to premature failures and road debris than new tires. Any mode of failure will be increased with time. Retreaded tires have more time on them, period.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:08 pm to LNCHBOX
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You and CAD have yet to post anything from anyone other than people with a vested interest in selling retreads. I've already shown that you're saving at most $96 on CAD'd tire size (and that's only if you happen to be local to Nashville) and less than $250 on a set of 275/55r20s. And those savings lose you any sort of mileage warranty. For a cost that only happens once every couple years, there's no incentive.
With you on this. Depending on how much you drive, tires are a once every 3-5 year purchase and can be had brand new or gently used for as little as $100 more than retreads AND come with a warranty. The savings aren't worth the potential risk. You can argue how the trucking industry uses retreads all you want, but the applications simply aren't the same...18 stringently maintained tires driving mainly in a straight line vs. 4 neglected tires taking corners in city driving at 25+ mph and cruising 75 hwy driving. Average Joe doesn't check tire psi daily...when the temps drop from 60 to freezing as they have recently, Average Joe hops in his vehicle with 4 underinflated tires and goes about his day. If those were retreads, that'd be a huge risk.
But hey...to each their own. Hope you buy something cool with all that extra cash.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:11 pm to jordan21210
I hope he takes that extra cash and buys some more life insurance
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:14 pm to N2cars
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Here's the thing:
Recaps don't change the age of the rubber in the sidewalls. Retreads don't re-invent physics. Retreads aren't manufactured to the same standard as the OEM.
You have to know who you're dealing with. According to research, there is no difference in quality between the two.
LINK
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Fleet industries and consumers alike often wonder whether or not retreaded tires are as safe and reliable as tires with virgin casings. Across the board, from university researchers to trucking forums, there is no research or even anecdotal evidence that shows any differences in quality amongst the two.
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If you search for the cons of using retreads, you will come up short-handed. But there is some criticism, or rather myths, which are addressed below.
Two state agencies dispel common myths about retreads:
Utah State University – USU reports that the rubber from busted tires that you see on highways isn’t from retreads, but rather, from virgin tires.
Washington State Department of Transportation – “The majority of tire debris found on the Nation’s highways is not a result of manufacturing/process deficiencies,” explains Washington State DOT.
Retread companies have to adhere to stringent industry standards, and no published research shows that they are in any way deficient in quality.
Most casings have a life of over 5 years.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:16 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I can tell you this: they are against the law for steering tires. That's even on the checklist for CDL. inspection on every trip. The driver is suppose to refuse the load if the truck has them on the steering wheels.
Do you think that's because anti-recappers bribed the DOT?
ETA: looked it up. FMCSA outlaws them on buses, but not semis. Still not worth the risk and if you hit me or mine after the blowout, I'm suing your arse for all you're worth.
Do you think that's because anti-recappers bribed the DOT?
ETA: looked it up. FMCSA outlaws them on buses, but not semis. Still not worth the risk and if you hit me or mine after the blowout, I'm suing your arse for all you're worth.
This post was edited on 1/28/16 at 8:29 pm
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:18 pm to LNCHBOX
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Don't bother. Much like CAD, he's been sold and will quote any retread dealer to prove you wrong.
WSDOT claims retreads from reputable recyclers are as safe as new. But what do they know.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:27 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I agree with that last statement; tires, from new, are good for 5 years. After 5 and before 7, I replace them, always.
Retreads will use a casing 5 years old.
I'm not gonna chance it.
Retreads will use a casing 5 years old.
I'm not gonna chance it.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:28 pm to CAD703X
Read through the whole thread. Don't remember seeing what kind of warranty the retreads have.
What kind of tread warranty do the retreads have?
What kind of tread warranty do the retreads have?
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:30 pm to chinese58
If it breaks in half, you own both pieces.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:33 pm to N2cars
30 seconds or 30 steps, whichever is first.Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:38 pm to chinese58
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Certain MICHELIN® truck tires used only in long-haul service
according to the instructions contained in this Operator’s Manual,
are covered by this limited warranty against defects in workmanship
and materials for 700,000 miles, and up to 3 retreads for 7 years from
the date of manufacture when retreaded by an authorized Michelin
Retread Technologies (MRT) Dealer.
This is from Michelin.
LINK
This is Goodyear. They offer casing warranty up to 7 years with unlimited retreads.
LINK
98% of airlines use retread tires.
This post was edited on 1/28/16 at 8:39 pm
Posted on 1/28/16 at 8:42 pm to CAD703X
Wouldn't put that on my kids car.
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