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Business Insider: Author says US is made up of 11 separate nations

Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:23 pm
Posted by MrLSU
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:23 pm



New France

The New Orleans area, a progressive hub nestled in the Deep South, makes up what Woodard calls New France, as does the Canadian province of Quebec.

"After a long history of imperial oppression, its people have emerged as down-to-earth, egalitarian, and consensus driven, among the most liberal on the continent, with unusually tolerant attitudes toward gays and people of all races and a ready acceptance of government involvement in the economy" Woodard wrote of New France.

People in this multicultural region tend to be comfortable with government involvement in the economy, he said.

Deep South

The Deep South traces its roots to slave societies in the West Indies, where democracy was reserved for the privileged and many were resigned to a life of servitude, Woodard wrote.

People in the Deep South tend to fight against the expansion of federal powers, taxes on the wealthy, and corporate and environmental regulations.
On Woodard's map, the Deep South spans from rural North Carolina, through South Carolina, Georgia, northern Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, northern Louisiana, and eastern Texas.

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Of particular note is that New France kicked Baton Rouge out of the club.
This post was edited on 1/21/18 at 11:25 pm
Posted by DrunkerThanThou
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:25 pm to
Oh this thread again
Posted by Manzielathon
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:25 pm to
One, this is old as hell.

Two, Greater Appalachia is dumb as frick. How are Morgantown and Austin even close to similar?
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:25 pm to
Posted by texag7
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:26 pm to
Midland, TX ain't no greater appalachia

Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:27 pm to
MI, WI, & MN should not be grouped with New England
Posted by GoldenBoy
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:28 pm to
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Two, Greater Appalachia is dumb as frick. How are Morgantown and Austin even close to similar?


That part is the most confusing to me as well. If anything, Texas should be its own "nation".
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:28 pm to
EBR is in, ascension, iberville, and WBR are out.
Posted by swamie
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:33 pm to
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with unusually tolerant attitudes toward gays and people of all races and a ready acceptance of government involvement in the economy" Woodard wrote of New France.



and they included Livingston parish as New France?

Posted by Walking the Earth
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:33 pm to
El Norte is south of just about everybody.
Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:34 pm to
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Of particular note is that New France kicked Baton Rouge out of the club.


Looks like you don’t know how to read a map.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:34 pm to
This map makes no sense without the context of the book it’s from which is American Nations by Colin Woodward. It’s actually a good book. But the map is dumb out of context.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:41 pm to
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How are Morgantown and Austin even close to similar?
Actually not that far off from each other.

Morgantown is an anomaly in WV. The big state University with a Med School, folks there who actually wear shoes and are disgusted by inbreeding: in short- imports.

But the rest of West Virginia* is far removed from Texas. So your point is pretty valid.

*The extreme eastern panhandle of WV is becoming part of the DC/Baltimore metro area. So that’s kinda sorta the other exception in WV.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:56 pm to
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Woodard describes the Greater Appalachian culture as "characterized by a warrior ethic and a commitment to personal sovereignty and individual liberty." 

The region has shifted alliances, siding with the Union during the Civil War, but currently aligning with Southern states in their opposition to federal overreach. People from this region are generally "intensely suspicious of lowland aristocrats and Yankee social engineers alike."




While the area is way off, this is right on the mark.
Posted by lynxcat
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:03 am to
A lot of the orientation makes sense. The Appalachian piece is strange because it cuts so far West, but I guess I can understand the rationale.

Austin, TX is so different than the rest of the southern cities that it is very hard to account for it.
This post was edited on 1/22/18 at 12:14 am
Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:04 am to
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New Orleans and Baton Rouge should have been included in a single grouping.


They are.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:06 am to
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Austin, TX is so different than the rest of the southern cities that it is very hard to account for it.



He should have made Austin a left coast island
Posted by lynxcat
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:13 am to
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They are.



Posted by SamuelClemens
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:38 am to
First time I've seen the article. Thank you
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:52 am to
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The Left Coast is the sliver of land that runs up the Pacific coasts of California, Oregon, and Washington, and also includes Juneau, Alaska, and coastal British Columbia.


This is right on, but would include Coastal Ak over to the Kenai. Coastal Ak is much more aligned politically and socially with sanFrancisco, Seattle and Vancouver. The rest of the State is very different
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