re: Buncha Palestinians in my neighborhood. Can’t tell if they’re happy about the peace deal.

Just curious if you fact checked anything in that video or just took it for fact.

I didn't see anything against what is already known.
Not going to change any minds. Don't really care that much either way. I'm not evangelical. That whole region could didapear and my life wouldnt change. Its just odd the way that we demonize one side and absolve the other when both sides have blood on there hands. But if any point in that really short video you take issue with. Address it and I'll respond later.

Israeli-Palestinians are free to move in Israel. Probably shocking to you, Palestinians are voted into Israeli Parliment.

Palestinians live alongside Israelis throughout the country and have the exact same rights.

The guy spewing bullshite on Rogan is trying to say Palestinians don't have a country but fails to mention they can't even tell Israel or the world what they want their borders to be. Other than "River to the Sea" which means their view is the only path to a country is to remove Israel. It's a stupid stance.

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that area was called Palestine from ancient Greek times to the Islamic takeover in 637

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No it wasn’t.
The Romans changed the name after the 2nd Jewish Revolt (Bar Kochba revolt) in 135 AD when the Roman deported the remaining Jews from the area.
The renaming was an act of punishment and a way to erase the Jewish identity of the land after the failed rebellion.
The Greeks called the coastal areas Palaestina after the Philistines who inhabited the area until the mid 8th BC.
The Romans named it Palestine as an insult, naming it after the Jewish ancient enemy.
Arabs don’t even have a “p” sound in their donkey language.

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Look I get that we rewrote history to say there is No Palestine. But the fact is that area was called Palestine from ancient Greek times to the Islamic takeover in 637.

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Before the Romans there were some references to some of the land by outsiders including the Greeks referencing general area after conquering the Persian Empire but not the ones living there, but no official naming of any specific area or people until the Romans renamed area to spite the rebelling Jews who the Romans were actually committing genocide on at the time.

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When the Romans finally put an end to the uprising, most of the Jews in Judea were killed or displaced, and a sizable number of captives were sold into slavery, leaving the district mostly depopulated. Jews were expelled from the area surrounding Jerusalem. No village in the district of Judea whose remains have been excavated so far has not been destroyed during the revolt. Roman emperor Hadrian, determined to root out Jewish nationalism, changed the name of the province from Judaea to Syria Palaestina.

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Some maps drawn after the fact have emphasized the name of the general area more than the people there did. This was especially true with maps drawn in the early 20th century around WWI which is the case for the 2 below that mention the word that were drawn by Scots.

“Kingdom of Judah
Israelite kingdom in the Southern Levant” (pre-Babylonia period)


“Yehud or Judea (Babylonian province)
Province of the Neo-Babylonian Empire”



“Yehud Medinata Province of the Achaemenid Empire” (post-Babylonia period)


“Hellenistic Palestine
Judea from the time of Alexander the Great until the Romans”


“Hasmonean Kingdom/dynasty
Dynasty of Judea (140–37 BC)”


“Herodian kingdom
Client state of the Roman Republic from 37 to 4 BCE”


Division of Herod the Great's Levantine kingdom


“Judaea (Roman province)
Province of the Roman Empire (6–135 AD)”


“Syria Palaestina
Province of the Roman Empire (136–390 CE)”


“Palaestina Prima
Palaestina Secunda (& part of the III)
Byzantine provinces (390-636)”


“Jund Filastin
Jund al-Urdunn
2 of 5 districts Bilad ash-Sham during the period of the Arab Caliphates“


“Kingdom of Jerusalem
Crusader state in the Levant from 1099 to 1291“

I only care what Greta thinks

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Strangely not a mark on her.

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How far back your going?

Israel if you go back before the jews were removed.
But it was Palestine from before Islam until 1946.
That's a really long time.
Does historical ties to land grant people that land?
If so we are screwed here when the Indians make their claims.

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Think lots of people proved you wrong. It was also named Judea and only named Palestine out of spite by the Romans after the Jewish revolt. Even though the Romans tried to remove them they had a substantial populace throughout time. There was an attempt at a 2 state solution post WWI but the Palestinians refused it and the two groups lived together until WWII. During WWII the Palestinians sided with the Nazi’s in an attempt to drive the Jews out. Post war the British allowed the Jews to return. After numerous altercations/attacks the Jews beat the living hell out of the inbred Palestinians and basically conquered the land. So I guess if the Palestinians hadn’t been such an inferior force they wouldn’t have lost. If they hadn’t been such ignorant group they could have had a 2 State Solution 6 times. They are the poster child of FAFO and deserve absolutely no sympathy.

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The Romans changed the name after the 2nd Jewish Revolt (Bar Kochba revolt) in 135 AD when the Roman deported the remaining Jews from the area. The renaming was an act of punishment and a way to erase the Jewish identity of the land after the failed rebellion.

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Deported the ones they didn’t kill or enslave. Amazing how quick some call Gaza a genocide when the gaza numbers come from Hamas at 67,000 which would have included Hamas soldiers regardless of Hama’s accuracy. Yet the Bar Kochba revolt Wiki page doesn’t mention genocide in first paragraph and writes - “ The revolt was ultimately crushed by the Romans, resulting in the near-depopulation of Judea through mass killings, widespread enslavement, and the displacement of much of the Jewish population.” Later the article mentions that some scholars characterize the aftermath as genocide.

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The revolt had catastrophic consequences for the Jewish population in Judaea, resulting in massive loss of life, widespread enslavement, and extensive forced displacement. The scale of devastation surpassed even that of the First Jewish–Roman War, leaving Judea proper in a state of desolation. Shimon Applebaum estimates that about two-thirds of Judaea's Jewish population died in the revolt. Some scholars characterize these consequences as an act of genocide

…the Roman historian Cassius Dio (c. 155–235) wrote: "50 of their most important outposts and 985 of their most famous villages were razed to the ground. 580,000 men were slain in the various raids and battles, and the number of those that perished by famine, disease and fire was past finding out, Thus nearly the whole of Judaea was made desolate."…

…Jewish survivors faced harsh punitive measures from the Romans, who often used social engineering to stabilize conflict zones. In the aftermath of the war, Jews were expelled from Jerusalem and a broad surrounding area, encompassing nearly the entire traditional district of Judea. The Romans proceeded with the construction of Aelia Capitolina on the ruins of Jerusalem and barred Jews from entering, except once a year on the day of Tisha B'Av.

… Roman policy also involved the mass enslavement and deportation of Jewish captives, a practice also observed after the revolt of the Salassi (25 BCE), the wars with the Raeti (15 BCE), and the Pannonian War (c. 12 BCE).[181] William V. Harris estimates that more than 100,000 Jews were enslaved.


… Following the revolt, Hadrian implemented a series of harsh religious decrees aimed at dismantling Jewish nationalism in Judaea… These included the outlawing of Torah study, the Hebrew calendar, and other core expressions of Jewish religious life. Jewish scholars were executed, and sacred texts were publicly burned. Hadrian further desecrated the ruins of the Temple by erecting statues of Jupiter and himself on the site.

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A further and more enduring punishment was implemented by the Romans following the revolt. In an effort to erase the memory of Judea and Ancient Israel, the province of Judaea—whose name carried a clear ethnic association with the Jews, being derived from the Latin Iudaei—was officially renamed Syria Palaestina. This act was intended to sever the region's historical association with the Jewish people, adopting a name associated with the (by then extinct) Philistines.

Although the Romans often renamed provinces, this instance is notable as the only recorded case in which a province's name was changed specifically in response to a rebellion—a measure not taken after revolts in provinces such as Britannia or Germania.

Historian Seth Schwartz writes that the name was intended to "celebrate the de-Judaization of the province.” Historian Werner Eck rejects the possibility that the new name reflected demographic changes following the reduction of the Jewish population—noting that a similar case in the history of Pannonia did not lead to a name change—and argues instead that it was exceptionally intended as a punishment directed against the Jews.

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Also, Philistines were Greek not arab. In past discussions some incorrectly linked them palestinians.