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re: Buick and GMC to make Onstar mandatory service you must pay for
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:36 am to KRS
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:36 am to KRS
Odd just a couple weeks ago a good friend was telling me that at some point new vehicles would have tracking devices mandatory installed similar to the way 18 wheelers are tracked. I thought he was being paranoid.
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Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:36 am to ghoast
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OnStar is still around? … and people use it?
Govt piggybacking on it maybe.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:36 am to ghoast
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OnStar is still around? … and people use it?
My mom still has it on their Yukon
She’s locked herself out many times over the years and calls them to unlock it
Once had a blowout and hit the button and they sent someone to change the tire for her
It’s a peace of mind thing .
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:36 am to SportsGuyNOLA
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Buick won’t be around by 2030.
How did Buick survive when Pontiac didn't?
Question still bugs me from time to time.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:38 am to jbgleason
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They are free to add anything they want to their cars. I am free to not buy them. Seems to work.
Yep. Free market capitalism at its finest. If buyers push back then GM will change course. If sales aren’t negatively impacted they will stay the course. I think it’s dumb, but no harm no foul in their part.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:41 am to KRS
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GM said the cost of the three-year plan will be integrated into the vehicle’s MSRP
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:41 am to KRS
Pretty soon you won't own cars.
The big government liberals and regulators would love nothing more than:
a) only electric vehicles made by unions
b) you lease or use via ride share programs
c) you are prohibited from modifying or doing anything to the car because climate change of course.
d) the manufacturers turn cars into glorified apps and everything is subscription based, extracting every last drop of consumer surplus from you.
e) govt can offer section 8 like programs for transportation.
You'll own nothing and love it.
The big government liberals and regulators would love nothing more than:
a) only electric vehicles made by unions
b) you lease or use via ride share programs
c) you are prohibited from modifying or doing anything to the car because climate change of course.
d) the manufacturers turn cars into glorified apps and everything is subscription based, extracting every last drop of consumer surplus from you.
e) govt can offer section 8 like programs for transportation.
You'll own nothing and love it.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:42 am to SportsGuyNOLA
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Buick won’t be around by 2030. They’re target demographic is age 60-80, half of which will be dead by then.
You thinking everyone 59 and under are vampires or something?
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:49 am to ghoast
Yeah. Actually when I flipped our Yukon year before last it knocked me out and my foot was stuck under the break pedal with a broken leg. I was off a few ft drop off in a woody area. Had onstage not notified paramedics and turned the flashers on I would have been stuck there who knows how long. My ex knowing I was on our road said the flashers was the only way anyone was able to locate me. We only had it for the hotspot but to act like onstar is not worth using is naive
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:51 am to KRS
Yeah this shite will stop with quickness once the auto market returns to normal.
GMC's biggest problem is that Chevrolet doesn't do this. They literally sell the same product, often in the same neighborhood.
GMC's biggest problem is that Chevrolet doesn't do this. They literally sell the same product, often in the same neighborhood.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:52 am to SportsGuyNOLA
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Buick won’t be around by 2030.
They’re target demographic is age 60-80, half of which will be dead by then.
False. Their target demographic is middle aged Chinese people. They don't give a shite about American consumers. They only exist so that GMC dealers have smaller, more fuel efficient vehicles to sell along side of their giant GMC-branded pickup trucks and SUVs.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:54 am to concrete_tiger
I find this subscription stuff annoying as hell.
It seems that most new apps in the iOS store require a monthly subscription for just basic "lite" versions to even try it out.
bullshite
It seems that most new apps in the iOS store require a monthly subscription for just basic "lite" versions to even try it out.
bullshite
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:55 am to GetBackToWork
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Pretty soon you won't own cars.
At some point as self-driving cars become ubiquitous, people who live in the city may not own one.
You'll just be part of a subscription service wherein a car with no driver comes and picks you up and takes you where you need to go, for a monthly fee. There will be lots all over cities with these automated cars waiting for people.
That won't really work for people in the country or suburbs though.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 9:56 am to Ace Midnight
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How did Buick survive when Pontiac didn't?
I think Buick was seen as a nice brand, one notch below Cadillac, that appealed to old people. The internal competitor for Buick was Oldsmobile.
Pontiac’s internal competitor was Chevrolet. And the Chevrolet nameplate will never go away.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:01 am to KRS
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:02 am to KRS
It’s still more effective than their current marketing…every five years they create an ad saying “this isn’t parents Buick”, and then proceed to state now they make quality vehicles. I think they’re currently in the fourth generation of that campaign.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:02 am to tiggerthetooth
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No doubt the ultimate goal is a remote master control for all vehicles.
You realize how crappy security is on a car don’t you? Let that sink in when hackers choose to shut down every car within 5 min of entering the 405 in La by their GPS cord and Dan Ryan in Chicago hell anything in Houston Dallas all at the exact same time. Watch and see.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:02 am to KRS
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:04 am to Ace Midnight
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How did Buick survive when Pontiac didn't?
Buick is wildly and strangely popular in China. Pontiac and Saturn weren't even in China. Buick's product portfolio also dovetailed very well with GM's German operations (Opel), and most GMC dealerships also already had a Buick franchise too.
I'd have honestly kept Saturn between the 3 of them. Saturn attracted the type of buyer that would never otherwise consider an American car. They had a lot of fuel efficient cars and their dealerships were less shady than Chevrolet dealers often were.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:06 am to KRS
I bet they are selling your location data too.
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