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re: Brother's Food Mart in Kenner refused to serve Border Patrol agents, ETA: Update Page 3
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:19 am to GeauxLSUGeaux
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:19 am to GeauxLSUGeaux
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It does matter because they are costing American taxpayers somewhere between 150 billion to 450 billion per year. So the extreme lengths we have to go through to get them out of here aren't because we just hate them, it's because they need to gtfo because they are actively harming America.
There is no single, widely accepted consensus on whether undocumented immigrants cost more to the government than they contribute financially. You cite FAIR, I'll site CATO. You site CIS, I'll site CBO. And considering the indiscriminate nature of how these deportations are being conducted, we dont know if we a getting rid of those that were net contributors or takers. We will find out the true cost/benefit of these deportation efforts hopefully a few years down the road but as of right now, with the notable exception of getting rid of some criminal aliens Im not positive it will be a great improvement for our economy.
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Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:19 am to lionward2014
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There in lies the problem with the whole system. It was designed for the 1960's when it was passed, and has not been modernized in 60 years. See my post earlier that if Congress would do their job and modernize the system we wouldn't be in this mess.
Meanwhile, we don't let the country fall because "the system is broken". We deport.
Where was your outrage when Obama deported 3 million?
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:20 am to Ingeniero
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I agree, frick constitutional rights
What constitutional right is violated by being detained and released?
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:28 am to LNCHBOX
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What constitutional right is violated by being detained and released?
Your 4th amendment rights if the stop doesn't meet the requirements laid out in Terry v. Ohio. And even then it's not a requirement (as far as I know) to have physical ID on you.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:29 am to ThuperThumpin
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Im not positive it will be a great improvement for our economy.
You know how markets work? That the cost of something is determined by supply and demand? So tell me, what happens when the supply stays the same, but in the span of just 4 years millions upon millions of people are allowed to just immigrate here illegally? The price of everything goes up, because the demand is outstripping the supply. When they go to the emergency room because they don't have insurance, who pays for that? You do, with increased premiums. When they get in a wreck with no insurance, who pays for that? You do. When they have children, who pays for their public school? Not them, because a vast majority are getting paid under the table because they aren't legally here. And don't even get me started on the ebt cards a lot of them use.
So if you don't think they are net drain, then you're a dumbass. Use some common fricking sense.
This post was edited on 12/10/25 at 9:31 am
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:29 am to ThuperThumpin
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Im not positive it will be a great improvement for our economy.
Sometimes the economy isn't the most important thing. (dogmatic libertarians get an aneurism hearing this)
If we imported a billion immigrants tomorrow from all over the world, the economy would show an "improvement". However, it would not, imo, be an improvement to the majority of the current American's lives.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:29 am to Ingeniero
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Your 4th amendment rights if the stop doesn't meet the requirements laid out in Terry v. Ohio. And even then it's not a requirement (as far as I know) to have physical ID on you.
Odd how many qualifiers you just added instead of saying none
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:32 am to LNCHBOX
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Odd how many qualifiers you just added instead of saying none
You may need to take some ESL classes:
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Your 4th amendment rights
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:33 am to Ingeniero
Any reason you stopped right before the word "if?"
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:36 am to BugAC
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Where was your outrage when Obama deported 3 million?
I wasn't a fan either. The difference between Obama and Trump's first term is the method of rounding people up. They focused a lot more on ICE detainers at jails and more targeted work site enforcement, not the random detentions that are occurring currently. There are some court proceedings procedural issues I have a massive problem with as well.
Again, I know that this is what a majority of the board wants, not trying to change any minds, just stating my opinion.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:39 am to LNCHBOX
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Any reason you stopped right before the word "if?"
Damn you're right, modifiers in a sentence make the first part totally false. If it isn't true for every scenario, it isn't true at all.
"It's legal to have opioids if you have a prescription" means it's never legal to have opioids
"You can own a gun if you aren't a felon" means no one's allowed to own a gun
"Your 4th amendment rights are violated if law enforcement doesn't follow certain criteria" means your 4th amendment rights are never violated.
Simple stuff!
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:41 am to Ingeniero
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Damn you're right, modifiers in a sentence make the first part totally false. If it isn't true for every scenario, it isn't true at all.
For someone saying I need ESL, you're not doing too well here
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:51 am to LNCHBOX
I'm just agreeing with you, bud. If a sentence requires some kind of qualifier then it must be some Communist gobbledygook. Everyone knows dependent clauses are woke
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:57 am to boxcarbarney
One thing we should all be able to agree upon is that that Bovino guy is a grade A, Napoleon Complex having, wannabe Nazi douchebag. He's disrespectful to local police, state police, even judges. He thinks he can get away with whatever the heck he wants. Dude intentionally messes with people to get a rise out of them and encourages his agents to do the same.
This admin couldn't have picked a worse face for this operation.
This admin couldn't have picked a worse face for this operation.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:59 am to mmmmmbeeer
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wannabe Nazi
Yall really haven't updated the playbook, huh?
Posted on 12/10/25 at 9:59 am to GeauxLSUGeaux
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The price of everything goes up, because the demand is outstripping the supply. When they go to the emergency room because they don't have insurance, who pays for that? You do, with increased premiums. When they get in a wreck with no insurance, who pays for that? You do. When they have children, who pays for their public school? Not them, because a vast majority are getting paid under the table because they aren't legally here. And don't even get me started on the ebt cards a lot of them use.
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So if you don't think they are net drain, then you're a dumbass. Use some common fricking sense.
There are studies from reputable think tanks that look at all that data. CATO, a traditionally conservative one found that ilegals contribute 300 billion in taxes more than they take. There are others that conclude differently. I'd like to see more before drawing a conclusion
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Our own governor Landry on Jan 16 2024 directed every executive branch entity to provide a written report to the Governor's office within 120 days detailing public services or funds expended "for the benefit of illegal aliens.The stated goal was to "analyze data to determine the financial burden" on Louisiana taxpayers and potentially to "send the federal government a bill" for the expenses incurred.While the order set a deadline for internal agency reports around May 2024, news coverage from after that date does not indicate the public release of a single, consolidated report with a final financial figure. Political analysts suggested the order was primarily a "political exercise" to pressure local authorities and justify future legislation rather than a typical public study
So we cant even get a comprehensive cost benefit analysis in our own state even when demanded by executive order of the governor. Its pathetic.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 10:08 am to LNCHBOX
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Yall really haven't updated the playbook, huh?
I mean, I'm not wrong....the dude is cosplaying as Himmler. Watch his mannerisms and tactics. He's a typical short man with no self confidence and a life of being picked on.
You must be short.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 10:08 am to Turnblad85
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If we imported a billion immigrants tomorrow from all over the world, the economy would show an "improvement". However, it would not, imo, be an improvement to the majority of the current American's lives.
Fair enough, but we cant even get a handle on the data showing what they contribute vs what they cost. There is so much we really dont have a firm grasp on as far as impact positive or negative.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 10:08 am to ThuperThumpin
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ilegals contribute 300 billion in taxes more than they take.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 10:09 am to mmmmmbeeer
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I mean, I'm not wrong....the dude is cosplaying as Himmler.
Ok creampie.
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