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re: Britney Spears' niece seriously injured in ATV accident
Posted on 2/6/17 at 11:41 am to Ex-Popcorn
Posted on 2/6/17 at 11:41 am to Ex-Popcorn
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Why don't we just allow 8 year olds to drive cars?
There is probably a lot of 8 year olds that would drive far better than adults.
Not all 8 year olds are the same. You realize people like Jeff Gordon, Michael Schumacher, etc started racing karts at an extremely early age right? Jeff Gordon was racing these at age 5...
Think it worked out pretty well for him. Blanket statements about some kids not being able to handle things is dumb. Some kids can handle the responsibility. I can't say for sure if this kid could or not, because I don't know this one. My kid has been racing around on a battery powered motorcycle (slow plastic trike) for awhile now and she has just turned 2. I'm not going to put her on a gas bike any time soon, but she will be getting one of those glide bikes soon because she has figured out steering finally.
This post was edited on 2/6/17 at 11:51 am
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Posted on 2/6/17 at 11:46 am to 19
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I wasn't even disappoint. I rode that fricking 50 till I looked retarded on it, even after I got an XR 100 at 14. But by nightfall THAT x-mas day, 3 of my friends were in the hospital from flipping 3-wheelers, and one of them never came back to school (brain damage).
I raced Honda 50s (asphalt motard style with moped racing slicks and big bored to 88c) all the way into my early 30s until I broke my hand on one and had to have two surgeries to get it fixed. The wife put an end to it after that.
This post was edited on 2/6/17 at 11:48 am
Posted on 2/6/17 at 12:22 pm to Napoleon
Dan is a sick frick
Posted on 2/6/17 at 12:42 pm to Napoleon
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that was the girl rumored to be the child of Dan Schneider.*
Nah, her dad lives in MS. Hope she has a full recovery.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 12:45 pm to LPTReb
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Blanket statements about some kids not being able to handle things is dumb. Some kids can handle the responsibility.
You do understand that this exact premise underlies every single public safety law/regulation in existence?
Seatbelts, drinking and driving, licensing age, etc. The point is that the vast, vast majority of eight year old kids lack judgment, responsibility, and the experience base to make good decisions. The fact that I'm even writing this is absurd.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 12:45 pm to Napoleon
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But it isn't uncommon for 8 year olds in south La to have ATVs. Just a shame she wasn't being watched more closely.
No just no.....in no way, shape, or form is it OK to have an 8 year old driving an ATV. You could have had 10 adults within 10 feet of her watching her on that ATV without blinking and this could have happened. 8 yr olds should not be driving.
Granted that article doesn't tell me she was driving but i've seen this type of thing happen over and over.....the usual common denominator is that the operator of the vehicle was very young.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 12:45 pm to Nado Jenkins83
Went to HS with a guy who flipped his 4-wheeler over on top of him and crushed his internal organs. He managed to crawl home through the woods and died on his front porch.
His parents found him when they got home from Easter church service.
fricking awful
His parents found him when they got home from Easter church service.
fricking awful
Posted on 2/6/17 at 12:50 pm to Nado Jenkins83
With all due respect to the child, please tell me why I should give a frick?
Americas obsession with celebrities and their families is frickin weird
Americas obsession with celebrities and their families is frickin weird
Posted on 2/6/17 at 12:53 pm to Mr. Hangover
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With all due respect to the child, please tell me why I should give a frick?
Because it's a story that hits close to home for a lot of families in Louisiana. I grew up in the city, so I never rode ATVs, but I know those who did.
My coworker lost his 12 year old brother 2 years ago in an ATV accident. I can't imagine going through something like that. This story could be a wake up call to some parents on this forum who maybe considered getting their kid an ATV or letting them ride one unsupervised.
So this story, to me, is a little more than just celeb worship
Posted on 2/6/17 at 12:56 pm to Ex-Popcorn
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Seatbelts, drinking and driving, licensing age, etc. The point is that the vast, vast majority of eight year old kids lack judgment, responsibility, and the experience base to make good decisions. The fact that I'm even writing this is absurd.
A majority probably don't even have access to learn about safe operation of these vehicles. So sure, that is a fine statement. Lots of kids do just fine with them though, of course there will be accidents like anything you do. Hell kids get hurt/killed playing regular sports as well, maybe not as frequently. We really have no information on this one to tell if it was a problem with skill, a part failure, or if she was even the one in control at the time.
This post was edited on 2/6/17 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 2/6/17 at 1:00 pm to Nado Jenkins83
That's sad man. Those things can be dangerous for kids. This was years ago, but I know a family whose son (I think he was around 10 or 11) was on a ATV in a ditch and as he was trying to come out of the ditch, it flipped over, feel on him and he died. I hope the best for this girl.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 1:11 pm to LSUZombie
Fair answer, I see your point...
But i also see both sides of the coin. I see absolutely no problem with children riding ATVs as long as certain safety precautions are met... i'd NEVER allow a small child to operate an adult four wheeler. If they do have their own four wheeler, fine, but they're going to wear a helmet and goggles, etc.. children's four wheelers usually have a governor on the throttle so you can adjust their maximum speed as they show their responsibility behind the wheel (handlebars)... im not going to put my son in a bubble his whole life but I'm also not going to put him in a position where he is setup to fail.... it's a slippery slope, I understand that, but I'm not going to hold back my child
But i also see both sides of the coin. I see absolutely no problem with children riding ATVs as long as certain safety precautions are met... i'd NEVER allow a small child to operate an adult four wheeler. If they do have their own four wheeler, fine, but they're going to wear a helmet and goggles, etc.. children's four wheelers usually have a governor on the throttle so you can adjust their maximum speed as they show their responsibility behind the wheel (handlebars)... im not going to put my son in a bubble his whole life but I'm also not going to put him in a position where he is setup to fail.... it's a slippery slope, I understand that, but I'm not going to hold back my child
This post was edited on 2/6/17 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 2/6/17 at 1:22 pm to Mr. Hangover
How is this even a debate? I feel like I'm in a bizzaro world. We are talking about an 8 year old. Not a high school freshman. 3rd grade.
I have an incredibly responsible 9 year old. But, there's no way in hell a parent should put an 8 year old on a powerful, motorized vehicle where an accident can easily mean death.
Some of you are just insane.
I have an incredibly responsible 9 year old. But, there's no way in hell a parent should put an 8 year old on a powerful, motorized vehicle where an accident can easily mean death.
Some of you are just insane.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 1:32 pm to Ex-Popcorn
You either were really sheltered as a child or you know nothing about ATVs
Yea man, those 50cc four wheelers that can be governed to do no more than 5 or 6 mph are real widowmakers
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But, there's no way in hell a parent should put an 8 year old on a powerful, motorized vehicle where an accident can easily mean death
Yea man, those 50cc four wheelers that can be governed to do no more than 5 or 6 mph are real widowmakers
This post was edited on 2/6/17 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 2/6/17 at 1:44 pm to Mr. Hangover
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those 50cc four wheelers that can be governed to do no more than 5 or 6 mph are real widowmakers
yeah...I'm sure that's what's killing all the kids.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 1:51 pm to Dam Guide
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Dam Guide
I had that Honda 90 3-wheeler in elementary school. Dad wouldn't let me get a 125 until middle school.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 1:53 pm to Ex-Popcorn
Well then don't be a dipshit and put your CHILD on an ADULT atv
Did you even read my initial post??
ETA: my second post in this thread, not first
Did you even read my initial post??
ETA: my second post in this thread, not first
This post was edited on 2/6/17 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 2/6/17 at 1:58 pm to Ex-Popcorn
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yeah...I'm sure that's what's killing all the kids.
There's a lot of speculation in this thread, including someone saying it was a Youth Polaris SxS. If it was, those do have speed limiters, so there's that. It doesn't mean it was used. But even it was used, it could still slide down something, and flip over into water. And so could a big wheel. Accidents happen, unfortunately.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 2:00 pm to Ex-Popcorn
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yeah...I'm sure that's what's killing all the kids.
It sounds like a lot of these deaths are roll over deaths and these 50cc three wheelers and four wheelers could easily kill a kid if it rolled on top of them.
shite happens, my kid isn't going in bubble wrap.
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including someone saying it was a Youth Polaris SxS
Those things have cages around them and seatbelts. Someone said she was in the water for awhile. It's quite possible someone else put her in there.
This post was edited on 2/6/17 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 2/6/17 at 2:01 pm to AFtigerFan
I'm speaking just from opinion here, but I've always considered those side by sides more dangerous than a regular four wheeler... from the first time I was able to ride, my dad would never let me operate an ATV if I couldn't handle the weight of it.. those side by sides are heavy and I feel like they are too much for young kids, even the youth models
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