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Bret Weinstein on Joe Rogan

Posted on 6/24/20 at 11:40 am
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
25983 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 11:40 am
It’s refreshing that some people still have the ability to think things through. He’s legit concerned about our nation’s future.

Topics:
the failure of the democratic party

#cancelstem, #cancelscience

a discussion of what is wrong with academia

how we’re kind of headed toward a Maoist China situation

lack of leadership in the country

the absurdity of defunding the police

why Derek Chauvin could get sacrificed and what the implications could be

YouTube
This post was edited on 6/24/20 at 12:13 pm
Posted by JetsetNuggs
Member since Jun 2014
15627 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 11:42 am to
It’s always nice to hear from somebody like that.

I’m sure I have many different views than Weinstein, but you can tell he’s a rational person that can have a level headed discussion.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
17755 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 11:43 am to
what's sad is that a lot of folks will disregard everything he says because he doesn't like trump/biden. He got kind of extreme with that but he was very rational and level headed.


He often talks about discourse but when both sides are operating on different sets of facts that are not true how do they even begin?
This post was edited on 6/24/20 at 2:38 pm
Posted by ShaneTheMaster
Tampa, FL
Member since Nov 2009
3301 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 11:44 am to
Definitely check out the entire episode. It is a good listen. This guy predicted this stuff was going to happen, after a microcosm of it happened at his campus - and he’s a traditional liberal. Weinstein also has a weekly podcast where they discuss what’s going on, that is a must-listen.
This post was edited on 6/24/20 at 11:45 am
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
25983 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:07 pm to
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what's sad is that a lot of folks will disregard everything he says because he doesn't like trump. He got kind of extreme with that but he was very rational and level headed.

Yep. This is one of the worst things about what we've become. For example, I'm a Christian, but I willingly listen to one of the world's leading atheists (Sam Harris) and like much of what he has to say (about the current political climate). Sam also hates Trump
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
25983 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:10 pm to
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I’m sure I have many different views than Weinstein, but you can tell he’s a rational person that can have a level headed discussion.

Exactly. And you bring up another point that he discusses--the modern disdain for the Enlightenment, which many feeble minded people believe is inherently racist!

His reply to the Eurocentricism of the Enlightenment was essentially, "Who cares where it came from? It's the best thing that's ever happened for humanity as a whole."
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
25983 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:12 pm to
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Definitely check out the entire episode.
I will finish the second half tonight. Yes, classical liberalism is largely unknown to the left these days.
This post was edited on 6/24/20 at 12:12 pm
Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
36242 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:18 pm to
Definitely worth watching all JRE episodes with Bret and/or his brother Eric.

You might enjoy reading the original TD thread on this episode. LINK
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:20 pm to
That was a very good episode. I can’t recommend this enough.
Posted by ClampClampington
Nebraska
Member since Jun 2017
4051 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:29 pm to
His first interview on JRE is great too. Think it was right before or shortly after he was fired from Evergreen. We probably would disagree on a majority of things, but at least Weinstein thinks before he speaks and has some interesting points. Better than 70% of the tards in this country
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
25983 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:30 pm to
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You might enjoy reading the original TD thread on this episode. LINK
Whoops!
Bad memory. I might have even posted in that thread.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:31 pm to
He has a bunch of good podcasts / interviews, his Dark Horse podcast is legit - his brother Eric is the shite too and has a great podcast called The Portal.

It would be nice if we could have a lot of people join together and acknowledge that both trump and biden are completely embarrassing as presidential candidates.
This post was edited on 6/24/20 at 12:32 pm
Posted by dandyjohn
Member since Apr 2009
804 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:38 pm to
I'm only 15 minutes in and so far this guy is dead right on what the political parties have done for the last 30 years and the impact it's had on normal people.

He's hitting on something I just can't understand. You have most of what this site is comprised of - suburban and rural white people who vote republican and then you have a more diverse cross-section of people who are urban who vote democrat.

But neither the republican or democrat bases are voting for their interests. Instead, y'all are all arguing against each other over social issues. Social power is not power - political power is.

So who's winning? For common people, no one. The aristocratic class, though, is gangbusters.

Who is going to show leadership here and stop arguing over meaningless shite and actually get something done? Who is going to just say something simple - we need more funding for social programs, policing is a social program, and we will get that money from the 1 percent of people who have 25 times more wealth than the bottom 99 percent? It's embarrassing and this guy is right, there's almost no way this ends well.
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16968 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:41 pm to
Weinstein is a smart stupid person. He’s a walking contradiction. Had he not been cancelled, he’d be right in the middle of all of this Leftist movement without the fame.

This post was edited on 6/24/20 at 12:42 pm
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
32422 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:42 pm to
Thanks for the link
Posted by El Mattadorr
Member since Mar 2019
2374 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:43 pm to
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what's sad is that a lot of folks will disregard everything he says because he doesn't like trump

That's the main issue I see in today's America. Most people automatically write off people who have different political views and refuse to listen to what they have to say. It also extends to entertainment. "I don't like ___'s political views, so I also hate his music."
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:43 pm to
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Who is going to show leadership here and stop arguing over meaningless shite and actually get something done? Who is going to just say something simple - we need more funding for social programs, policing is a social program, and we will get that money from the 1 percent of people who have 25 times more wealth than the bottom 99 percent? It's embarrassing and this guy is right, there's almost no way this ends well.


We have those people - they just don't get any attention whatsoever. So then everyone who is "normal" and just wants to move forward as a country gets disengaged because they can't handle all the bullshite. I was the same way until I discovered Yang this year, the guy Bret suggests should be drafted for president / VP later in the podcast. He gave me hope that maybe we were ready to move beyond the partisan bullshite of the last 3 decades or so to actually get something done.

Of course he got frozen out by the DC establishment and partisan hacks
Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
36242 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:50 pm to
That’s okay! I’d love to have 100 threads on these guys! not enough people are tuning in to their important messages.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
25983 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:17 pm to
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Weinstein is a smart stupid person. He’s a walking contradiction. Had he not been cancelled, he’d be right in the middle of all of this Leftist movement without the fame.

Sounds to me like he's a smart smart person. What part of him is stupid? Being a classical liberal at a small, progressive, liberal arts college doesn't make one stupid, does it?

You're right by saying if he wasn't where he was, when he was, no one would have ever heard of him. But he dissented. He actually did what few others were willing to do.
I'm struggling to see what he did wrong. A problem arose, and he had to sense to stand by his reasoned convictions.
Posted by facher08
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
6322 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:22 pm to
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Weinstein is a smart stupid person.


FFS....
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