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re: BR traffic today was an assraping. When will it be time?

Posted on 7/22/17 at 6:47 pm to
Posted by Slippy
Across the rivah
Member since Aug 2005
6600 posts
Posted on 7/22/17 at 6:47 pm to
Democracy is messy. And it keeps shite from getting done.
Posted by Stexas
SWLA
Member since May 2013
6031 posts
Posted on 7/22/17 at 6:48 pm to
We have close to the highest effective tax rate in the country but some of the worst infrastructure. 10+% sales tax, income tax, property tax, all add up to politicians buddies with contracts and entitlements for voters. I have zero confidence taxes will pay for shite. The toll route is the ONLY way this ever gets done.
Posted by Slippy
Across the rivah
Member since Aug 2005
6600 posts
Posted on 7/22/17 at 6:51 pm to
People in Shreveport and Monroe don't want to pay for a new bridge in BR. Although this is short sighted and provincial, it's a problem. Tolls are the only solution. I'm not sure what the holdup is. (I mean, other than pissant politicians in WBR and Iberville fighting over where to put the bridge.)

Just build the fricking thing.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16898 posts
Posted on 7/22/17 at 6:58 pm to
quote:

People in Shreveport and Monroe don't want to pay for a new bridge in BR


I sincerely think that if state politicians could figure out a way to physically move highway infrastructure from Baton Rouge to New Orleans, they would.

The few nickels the state has does not get spent in Baton Rouge. It's absurd that I-10 retains the same decking, lighting, width, and guardrails as it did 60 years ago or that Airline Highway is still only 4 lanes in most of EBR.
Posted by Pepe Lepew
Looney tuned .....
Member since Oct 2008
36178 posts
Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:01 pm to
The "old" bridge is closed till Monday, part of the issue

Like I've said here before, the "new" bridge was suppose to by pass BR when built. Our politicians moved it downtown for their benefit.....
This post was edited on 7/22/17 at 7:05 pm
Posted by LakeViewLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2009
17730 posts
Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:08 pm to
People had the chance to vote on the gas tax and they didnt want to put their money where their mouth is.

That gas tax would have funded numerous projects. People use the excuse " I dont think any of it would have gone to the right places", but the fact is, people just didnt want to pay it.

Now they will be paying the ultimate price. Priceless hours of their life wasting away in traffic. I guess their time is worthless to them.

This post was edited on 7/22/17 at 7:13 pm
Posted by jdeval1
Member since Dec 2009
7525 posts
Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:13 pm to
A bypass paid for with tolls is the answer.
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
9948 posts
Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:13 pm to
quote:

. I would say we halfway kept up until Katrina. Improvements before then made a difference and things were getting better. Been downhill since then no matter how much money they throw at it.

Totally agree.
Posted by lsufan_26
Member since Feb 2004
12559 posts
Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:15 pm to
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BR traffic today was an assraping

You can't rape the willing
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
9948 posts
Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:15 pm to
quote:

that gas tax would have funded numerous projects. People use the excuse " I dont think any of it would have gone to the right places", but the fact is, people just didnt want to pay it.

The gas tax was the only fair way to do it. Gas tax is the only tax I will vote for. They can take the property tax and stick it up their arse.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48330 posts
Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:26 pm to
quote:

People had the chance to vote on the gas tax and they didnt want to put their money where their mouth is.

That gas tax would have funded numerous projects. People use the excuse " I dont think any of it would have gone to the right places", but the fact is, people just didnt want to pay it.


Nah, you're wrong. As someone pointed out earlier, we have one of the highest local effective tax rates in the country and our local services are absolute shite. Local politics, not local funding, is the problem.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67593 posts
Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:29 pm to
We won't get a new bridge in the next 10 years so I suggest opening up another ferry around addis
Posted by jdeval1
Member since Dec 2009
7525 posts
Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:29 pm to
quote:

We have close to the highest effective tax rate in the country but some of the worst infrastructure. 10+% sales tax, income tax, property tax, all add up to politicians buddies with contracts and entitlements for voters. I have zero confidence taxes will pay for shite. The toll route is the ONLY way this ever gets done.

This
Posted by recruitnik
Campus
Member since Jul 2012
1223 posts
Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:43 pm to
quote:

I understand anti-tax sentiment. I understand NIMBYs. But when will the people of this state collectively decide that this shite has to end, and resolve to find a way to make it happen?


I think you answered your own question.

This is the area where even the most rednecked of the republicans should understand a strong state is needed, but yet, they will always always always do absolutely nothing.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:46 pm to
quote:

A bypass paid for with tolls is the answer.


Toll lanes in addition to free lanes work great in Texas.

Look at the redo of 635 in Dallas for an example.

That was a massive project and they mostly kept traffic flowing while the did it.
Posted by Armymann50
Playing with my
Member since Sep 2011
17183 posts
Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:46 pm to
I use the by pass all the time. No need to use the interstate road system.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21497 posts
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:26 pm to
What yall should do is plan a rolling blockade around the area the legislature meets for a couple of weeks. Show them how it feels to sit in cars for a few hours each day. It would not take but a few dozen collaborators with a good plan.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20455 posts
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:34 pm to
What a crock of shite! Sorry, but you're way off base in saying that.

Source of revenue isn't the problem here. It's absolutely what the politicians choose to do with it. 100%.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68379 posts
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:36 pm to
I srarted this exact thread when i moved to baton rouge in 1996
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:38 pm to
I will never understand the following mindset:

- Here exists a fixable problem.
- We have the authority and ability to provide the fix.
- Instead we will let it continue to suck.

I see it in business and of course in Louisiana politics.
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