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re: BR/Nola rail line to be unveiled tonight
Posted on 6/21/18 at 9:47 am to dgnx6
Posted on 6/21/18 at 9:47 am to dgnx6
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shite we have multiple threads a month on people talking about their work commute, living in nola and commute to br for work every day.
Do you really think those people will want to drive to a train station, then take a train ride, then have to find an uber to take them to their work every morning?
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Posted on 6/21/18 at 9:48 am to kingbob
Isn’t stops in Laplace and ascension planned?
Posted on 6/21/18 at 9:49 am to TJG210
Yes. There will be one in LaPlace and one in Gonzales. These will be “park and ride” spots for commuters and MSY travelors. I have no issue with these. My issue is with the downtown station not actually being downtown and the fact that there is no link between it and LSU.
If they had used the other set of tracks that follow the river, they could have had stations in downtown and LSU at the cost of the Gonzales station having to be moved down to Burnside by Pelican Point, and the “suburban” station being put at Laberge. I’d say that’s an even trade.
Supposedly the reason this route wasn’t chosen was because it’s 10 minutes longer, but it also wouldn’t require nearly as many upgraded road crossings nor replacing the aging trellis bridge, so it should be $300 million cheaper.
If they had used the other set of tracks that follow the river, they could have had stations in downtown and LSU at the cost of the Gonzales station having to be moved down to Burnside by Pelican Point, and the “suburban” station being put at Laberge. I’d say that’s an even trade.
Supposedly the reason this route wasn’t chosen was because it’s 10 minutes longer, but it also wouldn’t require nearly as many upgraded road crossings nor replacing the aging trellis bridge, so it should be $300 million cheaper.
This post was edited on 6/21/18 at 9:55 am
Posted on 6/21/18 at 9:51 am to Tigeralum2008
This will never happen.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 9:55 am to kingbob
The two BR stops are both urban.
The hospital district has to be considered urban. The two BR stops are both destination stop. Stops that people from NO metro areas are likely to travel to although the Downtown stop is not actually Downtown.
But that brings up a point, folks who want to use the train starting in BR will have to drive or bus to the hospital district or to Downtown. We know BRougeans don't like buses and if they drive to either bus station that's not cutting out traffic, it's increasing traffic in two over taxed areas.
Also the plan who enable folks who live around LaPlace, and Gonzales to use the train to go to work; however, many who live North of Gonzales aren't driving South to get on a train to go South, not if they are in Praitieville/Dutchtown.
The plan isn't well thought out and is full of pitfalls.
The hospital district has to be considered urban. The two BR stops are both destination stop. Stops that people from NO metro areas are likely to travel to although the Downtown stop is not actually Downtown.
But that brings up a point, folks who want to use the train starting in BR will have to drive or bus to the hospital district or to Downtown. We know BRougeans don't like buses and if they drive to either bus station that's not cutting out traffic, it's increasing traffic in two over taxed areas.
Also the plan who enable folks who live around LaPlace, and Gonzales to use the train to go to work; however, many who live North of Gonzales aren't driving South to get on a train to go South, not if they are in Praitieville/Dutchtown.
The plan isn't well thought out and is full of pitfalls.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:00 am to doubleb
People in Gonzales who work for the state or the downtown law offices would have loved to get on the train in Gonzales and get dropped off a couple blocks away, but that’s not what this project does. If it did, I’d be all for that.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:05 am to kingbob
Nope, and how many state workers live in or near Gonzales? It needs to be hundred not a hundred.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:26 am to kingbob
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nor replacing the aging trellis bridge, so it should be $300 million cheaper.
How would they cross the spillway?
Right at 1hr from Uptown to Laplace yesterday during the end of rush hour.
This post was edited on 6/21/18 at 10:38 am
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:28 am to PiscesTiger
The inside of those cars would look like a 1970's NYC subway in short order.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:51 am to RogerTheShrubber
no one has commented on the two trains a day...not going to cut it...
this can be a winner if done correctly...
this can be a winner if done correctly...
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:54 am to Mike da Tigah
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It’s going to be Louisiana, and that’s the problem with all of this.
So it's not the rail that's the problem, it's that that rail is going to be managed by Louisiana.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:57 am to Tigeralum2008
Downtown NOLA and MSY makes the most sense and could/should be connected by rail. Honestly if NO and JP can figure out how to fund that line with package of local, state, and fed money that should proceed asap. Can work on the spillway crossing and the BR links in the future.
Also downtown NOLA is already transit connected with a streetcar that runs every 20 mins from the train station (UPT) to Canal Street. Additionally its only a 10 minute walk from UPT to the dome/arena, 12 minutes to City Hall, and less than 20 mins to almost every major office building in the CBD. Also I'm sure there would be a local circulator service added for the CBD if this ever happens.
Also downtown NOLA is already transit connected with a streetcar that runs every 20 mins from the train station (UPT) to Canal Street. Additionally its only a 10 minute walk from UPT to the dome/arena, 12 minutes to City Hall, and less than 20 mins to almost every major office building in the CBD. Also I'm sure there would be a local circulator service added for the CBD if this ever happens.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:58 am to doubleb
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The plan isn't well thought out and is full of pitfalls.
It's because they are trying to do it on the cheap. Because to do this right... requires laying some new track and probably a total cost of north of 500 million.
And if they are getting this much complaints about the cost now, imagine what the complaints will be at the 500 million cost
Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:12 am to LSUFanHouston
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And if they are getting this much complaints about the cost now, imagine what the complaints will be at the 500 million cost
It's definitley going to have cost overruns. They will be dramatically less than every road project, but it will get way more attention and scrutiny.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:19 am to NOLALGD
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Downtown NOLA and MSY makes the most sense and could/should be connected by rail. Honestly if NO and JP can figure out how to fund that line with package of local, state, and fed money that should proceed asap. Can work on the spillway crossing and the BR links in the future.
Also downtown NOLA is already transit connected with a streetcar that runs every 20 mins from the train station (UPT) to Canal Street. Additionally its only a 10 minute walk from UPT to the dome/arena, 12 minutes to City Hall, and less than 20 mins to almost every major office building in the CBD. Also I'm sure there would be a local circulator service added for the CBD if this ever happens.
It really should happen in nola regardless of the BR aspects.
Most major tourist heavy metros have a rail link from airport to downtown
Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:21 am to fightin tigers
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How would they cross the spillway?
They wouldn't have to cross the swamp because the other route stays on solid ground near the river. Those tracks don't need to be replaced.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:42 am to kingbob
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They wouldn't have to cross the swamp because the other route stays on solid ground near the river. Those tracks don't need to be replaced.
I don't know if the other bridge needs the same upgrades, but it certainly isn't on solid ground.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:44 am to NOLALGD
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Downtown NOLA and MSY makes the most sense and could/should be connected by rail. Honestly if NO and JP can figure out how to fund that line with package of local, state, and fed money that should proceed asap. Can work on the spillway crossing and the BR links in the future.
Also downtown NOLA is already transit connected with a streetcar that runs every 20 mins from the train station (UPT) to Canal Street. Additionally its only a 10 minute walk from UPT to the dome/arena, 12 minutes to City Hall, and less than 20 mins to almost every major office building in the CBD. Also I'm sure there would be a local circulator service added for the CBD if this ever happens.
I agree with this post. Build the Nola portion first, then slowly connect more stops until you get to Baton Rouge.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:56 am to TheCaterpillar
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I agree with this post. Build the Nola portion first, then slowly connect more stops until you get to Baton Rouge.
This is also a way to build public support and buy-in. Issue is will the BR people (who are honestly the ones driving this) oppose funding if it doesn't start in BR.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:58 am to NOLALGD
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This is also a way to build public support and buy-in. Issue is will the BR people (who are honestly the ones driving this) oppose funding if it doesn't start in BR.
BR people want the surrounding parishes to pay for bridges and loops to benefit their traffic. Something tells me they won't support benefits in other areas.
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