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re: BR/Nola rail line to be unveiled tonight
Posted on 6/20/18 at 3:55 pm to lsu13lsu
Posted on 6/20/18 at 3:55 pm to lsu13lsu
When did they start expanding I-10 between Carrollton and Kenner? 20 years ago? They still have not expanded the part from Veterans to the end of Kenner by the spillway bridge, and there really aren't any concrete set plans to do so.
And I don't see them EVER replacing the spillway bridge, at least not until it falls in the water.
As it is, driving from Nola to BR is a PITA weeknights as it backs up at Veterans where it goes from 5 lanes to 3, and where the bridge starts where it goes from 3 lanes to 2. And that's with no accidents.
And I don't see them EVER replacing the spillway bridge, at least not until it falls in the water.
As it is, driving from Nola to BR is a PITA weeknights as it backs up at Veterans where it goes from 5 lanes to 3, and where the bridge starts where it goes from 3 lanes to 2. And that's with no accidents.
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Posted on 6/20/18 at 3:59 pm to lsu13lsu
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This project will take years to get finished and will last years. What will automobile travel look like then?
If what a lot of people say comes to fruition, with "driverless" cars, it will flow better on our existing infrastructure. All cars will be in "contact" with another and the system as a whole, in effect creating "trains" of vehicles moving much closer together at high speeds in harmony.
If for any reason a "lead" vehicle has to brake or stop, the driver behind or even three cars behind won't need to see brake lights, the wireless linked control system will know and slow down/stop all vehicle traffic as one.
It may be efficient enough so that "traffic" as we know it will be done away with.
At least in theory, that's what it will be...
Posted on 6/20/18 at 4:02 pm to LSUFanHouston
I wait in BR traffic all the time. I do not understand the people saying "what about the stops and waiting".
I also think parking will get harder and harder. If you go to the major areas that have trains, parking and traffic is a nightmare. We have to think we are approaching that versus getting more parking and better traffic.
I am sure at one point people were saying "why spend money on a Loop in BR. Travel is easy on the current roads!" Now they wish they had wasted the money 20 years ago on a Loop in BR.
Like I said, I am generally against any government project as a rule. But, some of the arguments against the train are short-sighted.
I also think parking will get harder and harder. If you go to the major areas that have trains, parking and traffic is a nightmare. We have to think we are approaching that versus getting more parking and better traffic.
I am sure at one point people were saying "why spend money on a Loop in BR. Travel is easy on the current roads!" Now they wish they had wasted the money 20 years ago on a Loop in BR.
Like I said, I am generally against any government project as a rule. But, some of the arguments against the train are short-sighted.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 4:02 pm to Tigeralum2008
Pretty sure John Georges has sunk a lot of money into these plans. The Advocate has been beating this dead horse for years.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 4:06 pm to BRich
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At least in theory, that's what it will be...
As you said that is a theory. Along those lines, the theory is trains will be a big part of that. People will share cars and the cars will just drop them off at places like train stations and airports and work and then go pick someone else up. People will not even own cars they will be more shared.
People will get in a driver less car at home then be dropped off at the BR trainstation and then picked up by a driverless car in NOLA.
This post was edited on 6/20/18 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 6/20/18 at 4:12 pm to lsu13lsu
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I also think parking will get harder and harder. If you go to the major areas that have trains, parking and traffic is a nightmare.
NOLA isn't to the point of NYC or Chicago, yet, when it comes to parking, but it is getting harder. Surface lots are being gobbled up and having buildings constructed on them. The few lots left, and most of the garages, are now owned by a few companies who relentlessly raise parking rates - especially when it's a "special event" in NOLA which is now pretty much more days than not.
The city keeps raising prices and adding hours on meters. Plus, meters aren't a good parking option when you want to go somewhere for more than a couple of hours. Gotta keep going out when the 2 hrs are up to re-up it.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 4:30 pm to lsu13lsu
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But, some of the arguments against the train are short-sighted.
More and more of your tax dollars being used to fund this when it becomes a giant money pit short sighted? It doesn't have to be a money maker, but if the government is paying an absurd amount to subsidize it on a per rider basis is that a good thing?
Posted on 6/20/18 at 4:32 pm to Hangover Haven
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That's awesome... Just as long as it doesn't cross Metairie Rd at 7:50 in the morning...
It isn't a slow 189 car freight train it is a few passenger cars moving rapidly. F Metairians and thier opposition to progress.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 4:36 pm to TJG210
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More and more of your tax dollars being used to fund this when it becomes a giant money pit short sighted? It doesn't have to be a money maker, but if the government is paying an absurd amount to subsidize it on a per rider basis is that a good thing?
The government subsidizes all of our transportation and the roads are getting worse and worse. We cannot continue to just invest in highways alone. I am not sure if this is any better than highways. I have not seen anyone make a case that it isn't long-term. All I have heard is right now it isn't the right investment. But, I am not worried about right now. I am worried about what traffic and parking will look like in five or ten years.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 4:41 pm to TJG210
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My point was what are you going to do when you’re piss drunk getting off the train in Baton Rouge? That’s another uber ride......
Let’s play with numbers:
$20 uber ride to the station
$10 train fare (no clue what it will cost)
$20 uber ride to destination in New Orleans
$20 uber ride back home
How many people will use it consistently at that cost?
The article from the Advocate said there will be trams from the station (which is supposed to be at Government & 14th at the old Entergy Campus) to downtown and LSU as well as buses. Since it's going to the AMTRAK station in New Orleans I suspect they'll have the same thing there so a lot of people won't need to worry about cars/ubers.
They said there will be a stop at the airport so that part means you just pay for travel to and from the BR station unless you have a ride.
For things like festivals/events it'll probably still be cheaper than trying to find and pay for parking.
I imagine it won't be convenient for everyone, but I think there's enough demand to warrant it. Also, it makes it more likely someone would live in a city along the path and commute to BR or NOLA that way rather than driving.
With the number of events in NOLA it makes BR another place people can stay.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 4:56 pm to TJG210
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I go downtown quite often for events and 99.9% of the time pay $0 to park.
Excluding Sunday?
Posted on 6/20/18 at 4:57 pm to MLCLyons
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Since it's going to the AMTRAK station in New Orleans I suspect they'll have the same thing there so a lot of people won't need to worry about cars/ubers.
Streetcar to the FQ stops at the front door.
Streetcar to uptown is 3 blocks away.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 5:29 pm to fightin tigers
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Excluding Sunday?
I have season tickets and never pay to park.....get there around 10 and you should be fine.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:01 pm to fightin tigers
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Since it's going to the AMTRAK station in New Orleans I suspect they'll have the same thing there so a lot of people won't need to worry about cars/ubers.
Streetcar to the FQ stops at the front door.
Streetcar to uptown is 3 blocks away.
This. The problem is the BR side of it. There are really only a few places in BR large enough numbers of people might want to go to to justify running a train to it:
Downtown (River Center, festivals, state capital, 3rd street bars, hotels, etc)
LSU (Tiger Stadium, Alex Box, classroom buildings)
BTR Airport
Blue Bayou/Dixie Landing
Hospital District
If we're lucky, exactly one of those locations will be on that route, and likely the least of those.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:03 pm to TJG210
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I have season tickets and never pay to park.....get there around 10 and you should be fine
No one has to pay to park on Sunday
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:06 pm to kingbob
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If we're lucky, exactly one of those locations will be on that route, and likely the least of those
The train isn't from NOLA to BR, it is for the people wanting to go to NOLA then get back home.
No one takes the train out of NYC ever day for work. (Well, except McLovin on the Dan Patrick Show)
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:27 pm to fightin tigers
It would be really nice for travelers to LSU football games to be able to get off the plane at MSY, take a train to downtown BR where their hotel is, and then take a train from downtown to the game the next day. Then, they could take the train back to their hotel, then from their hotel to the CBD to hang out in the quarter before catching the train back to MSY to fly home.
It would be of huge benefit to Baton Rouge and New Orleans for all of the cities' largest tourism sites (LSU, French Quarter, Superdome, Tiger Stadium, state capital, Tulane/Loyola/Audubon Park, MSY, BTR, City Park, etc) to be connected by mass transit.
It would be of huge benefit to Baton Rouge and New Orleans for all of the cities' largest tourism sites (LSU, French Quarter, Superdome, Tiger Stadium, state capital, Tulane/Loyola/Audubon Park, MSY, BTR, City Park, etc) to be connected by mass transit.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:29 pm to fightin tigers
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No one has to pay to park on Sunday
He was referencing people paying to park for saints games
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:30 pm to kingbob
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It would be really nice for travelers to LSU football games to be able to get off the plane at MSY, take a train to downtown BR where their hotel is, and then take a train from downtown to the game the next day. Then, they could take the train back to their hotel, then from their hotel to the CBD to hang out in the quarter before catching the train back to MSY to fly home
Brilliant to spend 1/2 billion for something that will be heavily used 7-8x year....
Posted on 6/20/18 at 8:37 pm to TJG210
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He was referencing people paying to park for saints games
Same sort of idiots that are against this train.
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