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Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:32 pm to Ray Finkle
Live work in greater NO. Filled up this morning for $30.00, won't do so again, for two or three weeks.
But a standard 13-16 gallon tank it's an educated guess, is all.
But a standard 13-16 gallon tank it's an educated guess, is all.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:37 pm to Ray Finkle
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You must have a gas guzzler if you use $30 in gas to get from BTR to New Orleans and back.
Not uncommon for big trucks and idiot drivers I see some mornings doing 85mph in them. I had a Sequoia that could get 12 mpg when my ex wife drove that fricker.
75 miles each way at $2.50 a gallon at 12mpg is $31.25/day
FTR: My current car get's 36-39mpg. And. Yes I have a spreadsheet with several calculations on it to help me determine the next vehicle I buy based on mpg and shite, including how many months my tires will last, cost, etc.
I'm a Computer dork with a Finance Degree too.This post was edited on 6/20/18 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:39 pm to mikelbr
That's awesome information to have.
< /threadjack >
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Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:41 pm to TJG210
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My point was what are you going to do when you’re piss drunk getting off the train in Baton Rouge? That’s another uber ride......
Let’s play with numbers:
$20 uber ride to the station
$10 train fare (no clue what it will cost)
$20 uber ride to destination in New Orleans
$20 uber ride back home
How many people will use it consistently at that cost?
As a commuter I am running some estimates based on a monthly/annual package like the DART/BART/Metro. That will bring the price WAY down per day. Then i'll price some street-legal scooters vs very cheap beater cars(like I used for pizza delivery). Add the cost of insurance on it(actually may go down for multi line and liability only) and parking.
It can be economical if plan't out right and with some parking/scooter hookups.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 1:42 pm to RedPop4
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$30 tank of gas
$20 park.
You've spent nearly, but not quite, the same amount.
The Uber ride to and from the beginning and end are conditional. It's just as reasonable to drive there yourself and drive home yourself. The train is not ONLY for drunks.
Plus how much for depreciation for your car?
Let's not forget the price of a hotel room if you would spend the night otherwise.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 2:24 pm to mikelbr
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It can be economical if plan't out right and with some parking/scooter hookups.
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As a commuter I am running some estimates based on a monthly/annual package like the DART/BART/Metro.
How many people commute from Baton Rouge to New Orleans or vice versa? I severely doubt it's enough to jusify this line. When there was a bus running from New Orleans to Baton Rouge, did you take advantage of that?
I mean you are really making a very big stretch in your argument based on your single case.
This post was edited on 6/20/18 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 6/20/18 at 2:28 pm to RedPop4
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The train is not ONLY for drunks.
I didn't say that it was, I answered gentleman who posted he would use it as such.
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$20 park.
I go downtown quite often for events and 99.9% of the time pay $0 to park.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 2:30 pm to RedPop4
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$30 tank of gas
160 mile round trip. $2.60/ gallon gas.
Guess you're a lifted F250 baw getting 13mpg.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 2:38 pm to TJG210
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How many people commute from Baton Rouge to New Orleans or vice versa? I severely doubt it's enough to jusify this line. When there was a bus running from New Orleans to Baton Rouge, did you take advantage of that?
I mean you are really making a very big stretch in your argument based on your single case.
You're thinking inside the box of just BR and Nola commuters.
I think the number of people flying out of or into MSY who need rides along that route , combined with commuters between the two cities justify that line easily.
It's not just driving from Baton Rouge to New Orleans.
Ask yourself how many people commute from Pville to Norco? Gonzales to Kenner? Zachary to Gramercy? Darrow to Avondale?
And so on.
This post was edited on 6/20/18 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 6/20/18 at 2:46 pm to mikelbr
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Ask yourself how many people commute from Pville to Norco? Gonzales to Kenner? Zachary to Gramercy? Darrow to Avondale?
Not enough to justify this.
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Darrow to Avondale?
So from Downtown New Orleans you think someone going to Avondale will pay $30/ea way (maybe more) for a uber?
This isn't even considering the amount of time spent waiting around.
This post was edited on 6/20/18 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 6/20/18 at 2:49 pm to Ray Finkle
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You must have a gas guzzler if you use $30 in gas to get from BTR to New Orleans and back.
You use more than just gas. Cost of vehicle, tires, oil change and on and on. IRS rate is 54.5 cents per mile. Anywhere from 60 to 90 miles depending on where you are going. So, anywhere from $32.7 to $49.05 on average.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 2:51 pm to TJG210
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This isn't even considering the amount of time spent waiting around.
This goes on all over the country. People read, eat or work while waiting. Anyone living on I-10 has waited around a lot in a vehicle in traffic.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 2:52 pm to lsu13lsu
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Nothing gets killed in Louisiana. There are all kinds of silly redundant and unneeded things in Louisiana that should be killed but they keep on trucking along. Universities and Colleges for instance. The airport is not going anywhere.
The airport will still be there, of course. What will happen is ridership will drop significantly. Impacting the bottom line and amount of service.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 2:57 pm to lsu13lsu
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This goes on all over the country. People read, eat or work while waiting
In the Northeast where they have the infrastructure to deal with mass transit. Whatevs, I guess I value my time more than someone wasting an extra hour (at least per day).
Posted on 6/20/18 at 3:02 pm to TJG210
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In the Northeast where they have the infrastructure to deal with mass transit. Whatevs, I guess I value my time more than someone wasting an extra hour (at least per day).
Yep, traffic and parking is terrible in those areas. So, a vehicle doesn't save them any time.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 3:25 pm to TJG210
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$20 uber ride to the station
$10 train fare (no clue what it will cost)
$20 uber ride to destination in New Orleans
$20 uber ride back home
The three Uber rides will probably have multiple people in them. Let's say 4 people.
So $60 in Ubers = $15 per person, let's say $12.50 each way for train = total $40.
Now let's say I have to drive there. Let's say that's $10 in gas and $20 to park (unless you get lucky and find a meter spot, good luck on a Sat night). again, divide 4 ways = $7.50 per person.
I take the train, I don't have to worry about who's the designated driver, don't have to worry about dealing with parking, don't have to actually drive, etc.
It's not something i would do every day, but sometimes? Sure.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 3:35 pm to LSUFanHouston
[quote]It's not something i would do every day, but sometimes? Sure[/quote
Does that make for a sustainable business plan or money pit?
Does that make for a sustainable business plan or money pit?
Posted on 6/20/18 at 3:41 pm to TJG210
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Does that make for a sustainable business plan or money pit?
I think this thing, if it would happen, would need to be built entirely with federal financing. There are programs that would fund this.
Without seeing operating costs and fares projections, I can't answer your question.
Also, tell me what current government entity has a "sustainable business plan"? What transit service, university, etc has this?
My guess is some people will use it daily for commuting, some will use it regularly to go to the airport, some will use it every once in a while, and some will never use it.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 3:47 pm to LSUFanHouston
I also think future traffic and travel should be considered. As the population in the area grows will it always be so easy to drive to NOLA etc? As we have found, if you wait too long it is hard to fix the problem. Sometimes we have to get out in front of the problems.
I don't see travel by car getting easier along I-10 in South LA.
I am not for this but I think just saying it is easier to drive NOW isn't a good rebuttal. This project will take years to get finished and will last years. What will automobile travel look like then?
I don't see travel by car getting easier along I-10 in South LA.
I am not for this but I think just saying it is easier to drive NOW isn't a good rebuttal. This project will take years to get finished and will last years. What will automobile travel look like then?
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