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re: Boulder passes nations steepest sugary beverage tax - Agree or disagree?

Posted on 8/1/17 at 1:01 pm to
Posted by HippieTiger
Boulder, CO
Member since Oct 2015
2204 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 1:01 pm to
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Why not put a big arse tax on everything that's unhealthy then? Fast food, fried chicken, booze, potato chips, pizza, burgers

It already exists for booze, cigs, and now sugary beverages. I wouldn't mind seeing it rolled out to fast food joints in general and would vote in favor of that.
Posted by HippieTiger
Boulder, CO
Member since Oct 2015
2204 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 1:04 pm to
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is this something to be proud of?

to me and the other people who voted for the tax it is. sugar is essentially poison, baw
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37593 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 1:04 pm to
Chicago's tax is now in effect, but get this, in true Chicago fashion they didn't even try to disguise it as a simple money grab.

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Cook County, which includes Chicago and surrounding suburbs, joins a growing number of localities across the United States that have adopted measures to cut consumption of sugary drinks for health reasons, including Seattle and San Francisco.


So that's the line, but the tax still applies to zero calorie and sugar free drinks.

Goddamn pieces of shite is what they are.

Oh, our tax doesn't apply to drinks bought using food stamps. So our tax dollars can now buy even more of those "death drinks" but they won't be taxed because we don't want to piss off the poors that are voting these a-holes into office...the people who are the least healthy and sucking at the public teat. And Heaven forbid we simply say that food stamps won't work for sugary drinks...
This post was edited on 8/1/17 at 1:07 pm
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37593 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 1:05 pm to
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voted for the tax


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HippieTiger


Checks out.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 1:06 pm to
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all "sin-taxes" are ridiculous and should not exist



I agree, but I think they should 100% prevent tax-payer funded food stamps from being able to purchase things like this.

And I think they should put warning labels on shite like cigarettes, but say “THIS shite WILL MAKE YOU A FAT, GROSS frick IF YOU INGEST TOO MUCH”.

But don’t tax it.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38235 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 1:08 pm to
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low-income populations that see a disparate effect of chronic conditions like heart disease, diabetes and obesity.


And why do these broke dick motherfrickers have disparate conditions of heart disease, diabetes, and obesity? Because they get govt handouts like welfare and WIC. And they buy unhealthy shite to eat and drink. Cut their welfare off and tell them to start paying for their own food, maybe they'll get healthy.
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
14616 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 1:10 pm to
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quote:The distributors are the ones taxed, but the price increase carries over to consumers. then the government will accuse the merchants of "gouging" the customers also, time to invest in a quick mart concentrating on sugary drinks juuuuuuuuust outside the city limits of Boulder




Yep, it's call the market economy. I doubt if there are very many people in the demographic they are targeting in the first place.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 1:11 pm to
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Cut their welfare off and tell them to start paying for their own food, maybe they'll get healthy.



Just make their welfare only work for essentials, like fruits, vegetables, standard meats, bread, eggs, milk, etc.

Instead they buy 72 oz. family size bottles of red drink, zebra cakes, and hot pockets.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86731 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 1:11 pm to
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to me and the other people who voted for the tax it is.


being the most willing group of people to impose taxes upon yourself shouldn't be something to be proud of, but hey, if it works for y'all...

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sugar is essentially poison, baw


irrelevant
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
22341 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 1:12 pm to
I don't like government dictating things like diet (since the govt knows jack shite about health) but given this is a city ordinance I can't really give any shits assuming it was voted on.

If you don't like this it is easy to move. If people hate it, the suburbs/small towns around should capitalize on the sentiment.
Posted by HippieTiger
Boulder, CO
Member since Oct 2015
2204 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 1:13 pm to
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And why do these broke dick motherfrickers have disparate conditions of heart disease, diabetes, and obesity? Because they get govt handouts like welfare and WIC. And they buy unhealthy shite to eat and drink. Cut their welfare off and tell them to start paying for their own food, maybe they'll get healthy.

Oh lawd, you are one of those types
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45425 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 1:14 pm to
HFCS should be illegal, or at a minimum come with a health label warning like tobacco.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37593 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 1:17 pm to
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HFCS should be illegal, or at a minimum come with a health label warning like tobacco.


All sugar is the same. You even Fed Up, bro?
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45425 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 1:20 pm to
Of course. But concentration levels, and the ability to increase sugar % and decrease fiber and micronutrients is not the same.
Posted by highcotton2
Alabama
Member since Feb 2010
10687 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 1:20 pm to
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I looked it up and surprisingly it is taxed but alcoholic beverages aren't. Found my loophole.



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Frappuccino would be taxed if you buy it at the supermarket (where it’s distributed by Pepsi), but exempt if you get it at a Starbucks. The so-called Starbucks Loophole was first noted by the Puget Sound Business Journal.



Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
33781 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 1:24 pm to
i have no problem with this. the local citizens voted on it and should be allowed to dictate the future of their city. any boulder residents wanting to chug some carbonated beverages are more than welcome to come join us in the south.
Posted by DonChowder
Sonoma County
Member since Dec 2012
9249 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 1:27 pm to
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I wouldn't mind seeing it rolled out to fast food joints in general and would vote in favor of that.
You're serious. And that is scary. Even scarier is that your town is filled with people with this same line of thought.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 1:30 pm to
I strongly disagree because it disgusts me for politicians to use the tax code to try and influence behavior.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38577 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 1:33 pm to
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Frappuccino would be taxed if you buy it at the supermarket (where it’s distributed by Pepsi), but exempt if you get it at a Starbucks. The so-called Starbucks Loophole was first noted by the Puget Sound Business Journal.

That was in Seattle. The Puget Sound Business Journal was a clue.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37593 posts
Posted on 8/1/17 at 1:33 pm to
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decrease fiber and micronutrients


No form of sugar has fiber or micronutrients. It has...sugar.
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