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re: Borrowing money from family and being charged interest?
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:31 pm to 777Tiger
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:31 pm to 777Tiger
Loaned money to family... You only do business with equals. Don't frick up the family dinamic.
Only do business with family if it's equal. Your family relationship is worth far more than having to frick up family over their money situation.
Only give money to family if you truly won't ever expect anything back or it will end up an equal return expectation in the long run, and a mess
Only do business with family if it's equal. Your family relationship is worth far more than having to frick up family over their money situation.
Only give money to family if you truly won't ever expect anything back or it will end up an equal return expectation in the long run, and a mess
This post was edited on 4/4/16 at 11:43 pm
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:32 pm to 777Tiger
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GTFO of here with your logical, sound reasoning!
I assumed that's what the FIL was doing. Paying off the debt to the loan agency and then working the $10k in house at 2%.
My gut tells me he was doing this to help the OP from the strain of a bank, lower the couple's DTI ratio, and provide some flexibility to the OP if it's ever needed.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:33 pm to thejudge
No but it's a win-win for you and him. He trusts you to pay at 2%. It's the same money coming out of your pocket he probably figures you are good for. He could take that money out and see how it performs with you paying him back which he thinks is a logical investment for him. I would do it. Your not theoretically borrowing from him, your giving him a better return for his money and he's giving you a better interest rate.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:35 pm to Spankum
I am just shocked at the sense of entitlement that a lot of posters are showing in this thread...why in the hell does everyone think the father in law owes it to OP to give him a gift of tens of thousands of dollars?...
bunch of fricking democrats in this thread, apparently...
bunch of fricking democrats in this thread, apparently...
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:40 pm to thejudge
Don't do it.
The borrower is subservient to the lender. This will alter your relationship with the family, forever.
It's got to be a gift or nothing at all.
The borrower is subservient to the lender. This will alter your relationship with the family, forever.
It's got to be a gift or nothing at all.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:41 pm to Golfer
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I assumed that's what the FIL was doing. Paying off the debt to the loan agency and then working the $10k in house at 2%.
My gut tells me he was doing this to help the OP from the strain of a bank, lower the couple's DTI ratio, and provide some flexibility to the OP if it's ever neede
that was tongue in cheek of course, that is the sensible thing to do if the in-laws are in a position to help them get a foot up, long after I thought I had "made it," my folks would give all of us kids "gifts" in weird amounts, just under the tax liability, just because, I guess they were grateful we'd all gotten out from under their roof
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:43 pm to Spankum
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why in the hell does everyone think the father in law owes it to OP to give him a gift of tens of thousands of dollars?
I didn't say the FIL should GIVE him money. I said he shouldn't charge his own daughter interest on a LOAN
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:46 pm to Bullfrog
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The borrower is subservient to the lender. This will alter your relationship with the family, forever.
It's got to be a gift or nothing at all.
Democrat, hunh?
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:46 pm to thejudge
So say sure, I'll take the loan, and next time I have to come fix your computer, 100/hr. Bidness is bidness.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:48 pm to Bullfrog
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The borrower is subservient to the lender. This will alter your relationship with the family, forever.
Here's my experience from spending this weekend with some good friends of ours who come from a financially illiterate family that would hold a loan over their heads. We were discussing cell phone bills:
Our friends (who are struggling to get on their feet financially) just voluntarily took themselves off their parent's cell phone family plan where they were paying $120/mo total to their own plan for $215/mo. Why? Because they were too prideful and couldn't get over writing a check to them each month.
Then there's my wife and I who could easily cover a $215/mo cell phone plan who are still on my FIL's plan at $58 total. Why? Because it lowers their bill to keep us on it and we're able to save a few bucks along the way.
I don't feel indebted to my FIL in the least bit.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:50 pm to CajunAlum Tiger Fan
Hell no.
Any loan fricks up a relationship with your inlaws.
If they want to give you money, then give it.
But you are really saying "I got this. I'm a man and can handle my business" in an unequivocal way.
Any loan fricks up a relationship with your inlaws.
If they want to give you money, then give it.
But you are really saying "I got this. I'm a man and can handle my business" in an unequivocal way.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:51 pm to thejudge
Good for you. Be your own man and don't let him hang that carrot over your head.
You only may be saving a couple hundred dollars to sell your dignity.
You only may be saving a couple hundred dollars to sell your dignity.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:52 pm to Golfer
That's a good example golfer.
and more like an expense sharing arrangement.
A loan changes shite.
A loan changes shite.
This post was edited on 4/4/16 at 11:53 pm
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:53 pm to retired trucker
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Biblically family does not charge usury
Great point, except biblically there was no concept of currency devaluation.
Dude's father in law is probably one of them Bilderberg types, charging 2% and shite man
This post was edited on 4/5/16 at 12:03 am
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:56 pm to Bullfrog
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A loan changes shite.
It doesn't have to. Provided both parties understand what's going on and act like adults.
Posted on 4/5/16 at 12:03 am to thejudge
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Got me thinking though. Anyone have a family member charge them interest on shite?
its so you take it seriously.
interest keeps it in your consciousness.
give him a spreadsheet with the payment, showing the interest accrued.
Posted on 4/5/16 at 1:51 am to thejudge
My wife and I have been on the other end of this scenario (lenders), and didn't charge interest. It's been about 5 years and her aunt still hasn't completely paid us back. She will eventually, and we don't really care because she is a wonderful woman, but we're obviously losing some purchasing power on the money. It was more than what you're talking about btw.
Bottom line... I wouldn't make my daughter and son-in-law pay interest on a loan... But I don't necessarily think the guy is a dick for doing it either. He's still doing you a favor, and it has to be nice knowing he thinks you're trustworthy enough to pay it back.
Bottom line... I wouldn't make my daughter and son-in-law pay interest on a loan... But I don't necessarily think the guy is a dick for doing it either. He's still doing you a favor, and it has to be nice knowing he thinks you're trustworthy enough to pay it back.
This post was edited on 4/5/16 at 1:55 am
Posted on 4/5/16 at 1:58 am to SG_Geaux
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A non shitty family wouldn't charge you interest.
Quite the opposite.
Posted on 4/5/16 at 5:25 am to thejudge
My grandparents lend money to family all the time apparently. When my parents bought their latest house they insisted and told them they need to take it, everyone else has. They charge a small interest rate comparable to keeping it in whatever savings/investment they had. Cheaper than a traditional loan. They also know that every few years they give all the kids something so that it's not all lost in estate taxes and such, so they just forgive the loans. I think that coupled with the fact that no one in my family is hurting for money is the reason no one cares that they charge interest.
Some of these loans are well into he 6 figures, so not exactly like the OP.
Some of these loans are well into he 6 figures, so not exactly like the OP.
Posted on 4/5/16 at 5:44 am to thejudge
Sounds like your father in law saw an opportunity for himself that also would have benefited you.
But, pride is going to prevent you from doing the smart thing.
But, pride is going to prevent you from doing the smart thing.
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