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re: Boeing’s Latest 737 MAX Concern: Pilots’ Physical Strength

Posted on 6/19/19 at 1:05 pm to
Posted by Kjun Tiger
Member since Dec 2014
2147 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 1:05 pm to
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cant justify not requiring all planes to upgrade to the new easier to crank


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The crank has nothing to do with landing gear.


Exactly. The crank is for starting the engines!
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 1:06 pm to
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The crank has nothing to do with landing gear.

the side windows on a lot of airliner cockpit windows have handle cranks though, wish we could just get power windows!
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
60087 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 1:07 pm to
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used to be part of the interview process when I was hired

So how many men’s cranks did you turn to get the job?
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 1:10 pm to
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So how many men’s cranks did you turn to get the job?

a buddy of mine told me before I went in for the third phase interview, "if they start to shut it down before twenty minutes are up just go straight for the zipper, you've got nothing to lose at that point"
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10968 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 2:03 pm to
How is the manual trim crank connected to the trim? I thought everything was usual electronic now and difficultly or force required was based on computer. Is manual trim crank different?
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 2:04 pm to
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Women / effeminate SJWs need not apply for Boeing jobs


You do realize that Boeing is not an airline, right?
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
10216 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 2:22 pm to
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they dropped it after so many female applicants couldn't do it


My brother is a fireman. The department was forced to hire a woman. She can't do the job. He told me that if something happened to him and he was knocked out in a building she couldn't pull him to safety. She can't even drive the firetruck.

Certain jobs shouldn't hire 'diversity'.... when it comes to safety it should be the best person who gets the job.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
24334 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 2:23 pm to
You need to be able to curl the weight of a small car to fly the 737 MAX.
This post was edited on 6/19/19 at 2:23 pm
Posted by Cold Drink
Member since Mar 2016
3482 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 6:52 pm to
They significantly reduced the size of the trim wheel in the Max (from an already-reduced wheel in the 737 NG), which significantly increases the force required to turn the thing. The Incredible Hulk would not have been able to turn the wheel in both the Ethiopian and Lion Air crashes.In other words, the manual trim wheel is often inoperable in the very conditions you need to use it.

A potential serious issue for Boeing is that this could even be true for the 737 NG as well. The only difference is that the NG doesn’t have the same annoying tendency to point toward the ground like the Max does.

But regardless - what do you do about the NG (arguably the safest aircraft ever developed) if it’s true that the manual trim wheel isn’t operable in those emergency conditions it needs to be operable? We know this is a fatal flaw. Just because it hasn’t happened yet doesn’t mean it won’t.
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