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re: Boeing 737 Crashes in China. 132 on board
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:50 am to cable
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:50 am to cable
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So how would the FAA (or the Chinese equivalent) piece this plane back together to figure out what happened? It doesn't seem like there is anything left.
those investigative teams are pretty good at that, they damn near can reassemble the airplane from what they're able to recover
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Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:51 am to jcaz
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Yeah certainly looks like control surface failure
At the rate of decent this plane crashed at, the plane would have started breaking up before impact with the ground.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:51 am to 777Tiger
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I'm going into a simulator today that is sitting right next to a 737 simulator, and a Max simulator at that!
I’m guessing even a nosedive from 30k in a simulator will scare the shite out of you. ??
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:52 am to 777Tiger
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those investigative teams are pretty good at that, they damn near can reassemble the airplane from what they're able to recover
It'll be 2 to 3 years of work piecing it back together.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:52 am to TigerBait1980
I wonder how you even try to recover/find remains of people after a crash like that
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:53 am to cable
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Boeing 737 Crashes in China. 132 on board by cable
So how would the FAA (or the Chinese equivalent) piece this plane back together to figure out what happened? It doesn't seem like there is anything left
Black box + any phone calls + trajectory/failure
It looks suicidal at first glance, that nose dive is crazy. These jets maintain a glide slope a bit....
Unless, instruments failed + pilot awareness failed + hydraulics failed + backups failed...which is one in a gazillion.
Could've been a combination of it failed/frick it, we'll make it quick
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:53 am to Tyga Woods
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Any guess why they seemed to gain some control and then lose it again?
haven't really looked into this one yet, just finding out about it
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:53 am to tunechi
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I wonder how you even try to recover/find remains of people after a crash like that
I don't think you do. More like pieces of people here and there.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:54 am to 777Tiger
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So how would the FAA (or the Chinese equivalent) piece this plane back together to figure out what happened? It doesn't seem like there is anything left.
those investigative teams are pretty good at that, they damn near can reassemble the airplane from what they're able to recover
This is a mockup of TWA Flight 800 which crashed off the coast. It's truly amazing what those investigators can do
Here's real images
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:54 am to stout
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Flying into Vegas in June though about September sucks due to the heat thermals coming off of the mountains. The only time I came close to hurling from turbulence was flying into Vegas on a Cessna Citation II in the middle of August.
When I flew to Vegas in July we ran into some storms upon landing, had some turbulence, and right after we got into the terminal, they closed the ramp so we had a delay getting bags.
I was surprised because I didn't think Vegas got that kind of weather in summer.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:55 am to When in Rome
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Mentour Pilot’s YouTube channel is way better than any crash show on TV
Speaking of which, here’s his website’s article webpage for this crash he’s keeping updated with new info: LINK riddled with ads though
Cool, I'll check it out
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:55 am to TigerBait1980
Looks like suicide by pilot. Control surface failure alone is an unlikely explanation for a sustained 90 degree with horizon straight down flight path into the ground.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:56 am to LSUFanHouston
Worst approaches for me were
Edinburgh, Scotland
Salt Lake City
Both tossed us around big time
Edinburgh, Scotland
Salt Lake City
Both tossed us around big time
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:56 am to GetCocky11
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I don't think you do. More like pieces of people here and there.
I've been to a few crash sites for investigations, it's a mix, you'll see bodies that look pretty much intact with little apparent trauma and then you'll see a foot, or an arm, or a torso, I've even seen just an eyeball
Posted on 3/21/22 at 8:59 am to IceTiger
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China Eastern Airlines MU5735 was not a 737 MAX. B-1791 was delivered to the airline in June 2015.
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Flight data shows it lost 18,000 ft in altitude in a space of two minutes.
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#BREAKING Data published by @flightradar24 in which you can see the descent of flight #MU5735. Something pushes the nose down, then lifts the nose and raises its altitude a little, and finally lowers the angle of attack again until it hits the ground.
There's nothing left
Looks like the trouble began 3 minutes before impact. Those poor people.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:01 am to stout
mother of God
Thats awful
Thats awful
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:01 am to TigerBait1980
The purported videos of the crash are wild. Of course the footage is grainy and it could just be the angle, but it looks like it's just the fuselage hitting the ground.
If a piece of the plane fell off as they began descent, would the stress of the crash cause the wings/tail/etc. to break apart?
That might be a dumb or super obvious question -- I'm not super knowledgeable on planes.
If a piece of the plane fell off as they began descent, would the stress of the crash cause the wings/tail/etc. to break apart?
That might be a dumb or super obvious question -- I'm not super knowledgeable on planes.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:01 am to LSUFanHouston
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I was surprised because I didn't think Vegas got that kind of weather in summer.
Ive been to Vegas where it was snowing one day then hot as balls the next. Vegas doesn't have seasons really but it can have some shite weather.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:02 am to 777Tiger
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I've even seen just an eyeball
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:03 am to Boss13
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I'm thinking failure of the jackscrew system in the tail. And Alaskan Airlines flight went down the same way after the nut sheared off the screw mechanism and the plane took a nosedive the same way this one did. I think I remember the cause being that it was not regularly lubricated.
That Alaska flight was an MD-83 with a T tail. The jackscrew isn’t going to shear off a 737 in the same way.
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