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re: BLM Supporter who threatened to massacre 16 students allowed back on campus

Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:29 am to
Posted by nes2010
Member since Jun 2014
8046 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:29 am to
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Do you have a link for this?



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Hunter Park, 19, was arrested early Wednesday morning, hours after posting threats on Yik Yak, a social media platform that allows its users to keep their identities private. Park has been charged with a Class C felony of making a terrorist threat.

Park’s appeal for bond was denied Thursday at the Boone County Courthouse. Park’s parents and two brothers were present at the hearing.

Park’s attorney, Jeffrey Hilbrenner, argued that based on Park's age and absence of criminal history, Park’s bond should be set at $10,000. He said he and Park understood the serious nature of the threats and charges.


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Hilbrenner claimed that Park had no real capability of carrying out his threats, as the police did not find any weapons.

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This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 7:31 am
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45198 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:31 am to
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It's clear it wasn't a serious threat, but it was a lethal threat that cost the school, the city, the state, and federal authorities 100s of thousands of dollars...not to mention the terror and inconvenience to the students, faculty, staff, and their families.
Daughter of a family I know wrote something about a bomb on the girls bathroom wall Mandeville High School (this is 8-10 yrs ago). She was arrested, expelled, homeland security was brought in etc. I know the dad and he told me the investigation scope was incredible. She had some very strenuous probation terms and was never allowed near that school again, rightfully so. Point being, this is how this a-hole should have been handled as well.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129722 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:35 am to
LINK

Here's a link to the charges against one of the Mizzou threateners.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:35 am to
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Hunter Park, 19, was arrested early Wednesday morning, hours after posting threats on Yik Yak, a social media platform that allows its users to keep their identities private. Park has been charged with a Class C felony of making a terrorist threat.

Park’s appeal for bond was denied Thursday at the Boone County Courthouse. Park’s parents and two brothers were present at the hearing.

Park’s attorney, Jeffrey Hilbrenner, argued that based on Park's age and absence of criminal history, Park’s bond should be set at $10,000. He said he and Park understood the serious nature of the threats and charges.


Hilbrenner claimed that Park had no real capability of carrying out his threats, as the police did not find any weapons.


Don't know all the details, but even all things being equal, those are different jurisdictions. I can find similarly disparate outcomes for otherwise similar cases by county, state, and federal jurisdictions all over the country.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 7:38 am
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
9189 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:37 am to
frick that piece of shite. He needs to disappear under questionable circumstances
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88456 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:39 am to
The feds may not have been able to hold him if he had yet to begin to carry out his plan. The threat could have been step one or two.

My point is that the seriousness of the threat is a matter of the true intentions of the guy. We can go by what he's said or we can go by a judge's decision and make assumptions based on that decision which could include, as you think, limited physical evidence. Which is very likely. And I would agree. But I don't believe that means this is a clear cut case of someone making an empty threat. And that's it. Nothing else too it. While it may be more likely at this point, im not in his head and neither is anyone else. So I remain skeptical.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88456 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:41 am to
But your argument hinges on him being released... So that's as good an argument against yourself in that it's not "clear" this was an empty threat.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:54 am to
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The feds may not have been able to hold him if he had yet to begin to carry out his plan.
Law enforcement can at least temporarily hold suspects in nearly any stage of an identifiable plot if it's deemed credible.

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My point is that the seriousness of the threat is a matter of the true intentions of the guy. We can go by what he's said or we can go by a judge's decision and make assumptions based on that decision which could include, as you think, limited physical evidence. Which is very likely. And I would agree. But I don't believe that means this is a clear cut case of someone making an empty threat. And that's it. Nothing else too it. While it may be more likely at this point, im not in his head and neither is anyone else. So I remain skeptical.


That's all fair. But you'd be surprised how many deadly threats are communicated in this country every day--boyfriends against girlfriends, employees against employers, threats against the first family and other public figures and celebrities, (more rare) bomb threats phoned into schools and other public venues. Authorities have metrics to assess whether or not it's something credible (and, if credible, imminent) or if it's a prank or somebody saying crazy shite in a rage or just blowing off steam. They're right most of the time. When they're not, people die. It wouldn't make sense to give a 5 years to every single person who's ever said "I'm going to kill that bastard next time I see him." Obviously his threat was more elaborate, but I imagine they looked into his background, ran forensics on his computer, phone, social media accounts, and determined that he was either blowing off steam or looking for attention. I wonder if he's undergone a formal psychological evaluation yet.
Posted by CherryGarciaMan
Sugar Magnolia
Member since Aug 2012
2497 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:58 am to
I think we are all missing a key point here.

The University of Chicago is supposed to be a relatively prestigious school, is it not?

Look at how many grammatical errors the 21 yr old produced.
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
16021 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:58 am to
White kids are getting tossed from school for fake rapes, while black kids get the red carpet treatment after threatening to kill whitey.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:09 am to
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White kids are getting tossed from school for fake rapes, while black kids get the red carpet treatment after threatening

Whiteys getting medals for threatening to assassinate the president
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 9:18 am
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:12 am to
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But your argument hinges on him being released... So that's as good an argument against yourself in that it's not "clear" this was an empty threat.


I wrote "even all things being equal [in circumstance]," legal procedures, customs, etc vary by jurisdiction. So that magistrate in Missouri chose to hold a kid for what is not a serious threat (assuming it's similar to the one made by the kid in Chicago). The judge in Chicago chose not to.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
32395 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:20 am to
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LSUTANGERINE


I understand how all this internet board stuff works and how many really stupid things are posted/said and how everyone tries to be inflammatory, but you are just above and beyond an a-hole.

You should just leave and not come back.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 8:21 am
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32890 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:24 am to
Pathetic.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:29 am to
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So let me get this straight.


White kid makes vague "threats" in the line of "black people might not want to go to school tomorrow." On an anonymous message board

Gets tracked down, arrested and charged with terrorism.


Black kid makes clear, detailed threats, including how many white people he will shoot using what, and is expressly racist, and gets a slap on the wrist.





Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
64067 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:29 am to
It will be the gun's (or "society's") fault when this guy flips the switch and starts mowing down innocent people.
Posted by TheAlmightySmash
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2014
5493 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:35 am to
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How easy could he have armed himself?


With about 3 grand I could walk into the local Academy Sports and buy an AR-15 and two large caliber handguns. No one could stop me. He could have acquired those weapons in 10 minutes if he wanted to.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:41 am to
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With about 3 grand I could walk into the local Academy Sports and buy an AR-15 and two large caliber handguns. No one could stop me. He could have acquired those weapons in 10 minutes if he wanted to.


Do you live in Chicago? Did you have 3 grand lying around as a college student?

I'm not saying he couldn't have acquired weapons were he determined, but that's a pretty silly answer.
Posted by Big Chipper
Charlotte, NC
Member since Sep 2008
2988 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:08 am to
Two different schools. The idiot went to University of Illinois, Chicago. He was threatening the University of Chicago, which is tied for #4 with Stanford and Columbia in the 2016 USN rankings.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:20 am to
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University of Chicago


Not surprised in the least. Disgusted, but not surprised
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