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re: Bill Nye is quite upset over Noah's Ark in Kentucky

Posted on 7/12/16 at 9:00 pm to
Posted by thegreatboudini
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 9:00 pm to
Evolutionist are like craft beer nerds, just a cut above the rest.
Posted by bgtiger
Prairieville
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 9:22 pm to
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He's easily one of the brightest modern day engineers, but yes, a piece of shite.


You are kind of coming off the same way... Minus the "brightest modern day engineer" part
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 9:23 pm to
Bill Nye the Fake Science Guy
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 9:29 pm to
I wonder if he gets outraged by Harry Potter World? If he thinks both are make believe, then what's the difference? Most of those that believe in strict creationism probably aren't the types to contribute to science, so why does it matter? As an agnostic, I put atheists (which I'm assuming he is) on the same level as Muslims - both hate freedom and would rather have it their way through force.
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 9:30 pm to
Well of course, I admit to be a piece of shite at times and an a-hole, but still an educated scientist who understands that far more factual evidence points the direction that says religion is a hoax.

Enjoy your Sunday school though.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 9:33 pm to
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Science educator Bill Nye took a tour of a new Noah's Ark attraction in Kentucky that he has called a danger to the nation's science education.



If he believes all it takes to threaten science education is a shitty boat in a shitty park that people will forget about by next week, he needs to go ahead and just retire.
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 9:49 pm to
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have yet to hear about a Catholic group trying to prevent single people from getting treatment for STDs on their healthcare plan - and presumably that's the result of the same activity.


And you wouldn't, because regardless of their sin (mine included) we wouldn't want to deny them mercy/forgiveness and more prudently, treatment.

The birth control and abortions are viewed as directly taking lives/preventing life. It is not a treatment as it is a culture of preventing life.

That's the main difference. I wouldn't want to deny anyone treatment to get better. That's just not merciful and is against our beliefs.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14658 posts
Posted on 7/12/16 at 11:38 pm to
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Not trying to be a dick either but that question is the number one giveaway that someone does not have a fundamental grasp of evolution.


Since you apparently have this fundamental grasp, have you ever contemplated how many beneficial genetic mutations evolution implies? If every living thing from a blade of grass to man started as a single organism and evolved, what is your rough estimate for the number of beneficial mutations from that organism, to man?

How much time do you allow from one beneficial mutation, capable of reproducing, to the next beneficial mutation, due to climate, environment, diet, etc?

Since natural selection, and beneficial mutations must be responsible for the diversity we know of throughout earth's history, it must be happening all the time, and right now. How many beneficial genetic mutations have been documented?
Posted by Cruiserhog
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 11:42 pm to
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I wonder if he gets outraged by Harry Potter World?


not sure if serious...Harry Potter's world is not being taught as science...kind of an important detail
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37010 posts
Posted on 7/12/16 at 11:59 pm to
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The birth control and abortions are viewed as directly taking lives/preventing life.



I understand the abortion argument but the birth control argument kinda befuddles me. Why would it be wrong to avoid the creation of a life? Is it just a sin of sex issue? Because otherwise any two fertile people who are choosing not to have sex when they could would be sinning.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56166 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 12:17 am to
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Since natural selection, and beneficial mutations must be responsible for the diversity we know of throughout earth's history, it must be happening all the time, and right now. How many beneficial genetic mutations have been documented?

Like another poster stated.

Assuming we are both layman here, but not sure you have that grasp like previously stated.
Posted by Asgard Device
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Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 7/13/16 at 12:17 am to
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Giving tax incentives to a start-up business does not equal tax payer funding


In addition to letting them pocket the sales taxes they charge visitors, the state also designated $11 million in road funds for an expanded interchange off Interstate 75. So, obviously there is government involvement.

At least it's not a transferable credit because those bad boys can just run wild and become straight up cash handouts that go well beyond what the tax liabilities are.
This post was edited on 7/13/16 at 12:19 am
Posted by Speedy G
Member since Aug 2013
3984 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 12:25 am to
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not sure if serious...Harry Potter's world is not being taught as science...kind of an important detail


Yeah, nobody is claiming Harry Potter is a true story and evidence of greater truths. Harry Potter World is also probably a lot more fun than this $100M fake zoo.

I am offended by the economic waste.
Posted by monkeybutt
Member since Oct 2015
4584 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 12:25 am to
I never realized this many people question evolution.

Posted by Cruiserhog
Little Rock
Member since Apr 2008
10460 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 12:30 am to
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Since you apparently have this fundamental grasp, have you ever contemplated how many beneficial genetic mutations evolution implies?


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started as a single organism and evolved, what is your rough estimate for the number of beneficial mutations from that organism, to man?


more examples of a basic misunderstanding of evolutionary theory.

there is no endgame in evolution, no ladder to climb in what gene is better...it only matters that the selective pressures on an isolated population in which the gene is found allows that gene to be passed on at a more successful and higher rate. If the gene happens to be beneficial that will indeed be the case until eventually many generation of random successful mutations over a long period of time further isolate the fledgling specie until it only mates with those having the same expression.

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ince natural selection, and beneficial mutations must be responsible for the diversity we know of throughout earth's history, it must be happening all the time, and right now. How many beneficial genetic mutations have been documented?


just off the top of my head.

Sickle cell anemia
low-density lipoprotein receptor-related protein 5
Apolipoprotein AI-Milano.
nylonase
cecal valves in wall lizards
humans losing the MYh16 gene
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37010 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 12:36 am to
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I never realized this many people question evolution.



You should sit in on a college introductory biology for majors course. It is astonishing how many people will try and stand up and challenge the professor with their Noah's Ark level stuff.

If there are people and monkeys then how could people come from monkeys?
I believe/don't believe in macroevolution. Prove it to me.
ID is a scientific theory. Why not teach the complete story?

None of this stuff would be an issue if people didn't have religious leaders telling them it challenges their faith.
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 12:37 am to
Anyone that is aggressively evangelical regarding their atheism is no different than the religious people they despise.
This post was edited on 7/13/16 at 12:40 am
Posted by monkeybutt
Member since Oct 2015
4584 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 12:42 am to
I'm not an atheist. That doesn't mean I have to believe in Noah's damn ark. I mean come on. And if you think someone must be an atheist to believe in evolution... Then
Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 7/13/16 at 12:44 am to
Not directed at you. Just picked someone to respond to add a thought.
Posted by monkeybutt
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 7/13/16 at 12:46 am to
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