re: Biggest red flag at the outset of the pandemic that made you doubt the official narrative?

I could never remotely understand why restaurants in most states could reopen before bars that sold alcohol. It honestly seemed to me like a half-disguised neo-Prohibitionist thing. It didn’t really change my opinion on lockdowns because I had already opposed lockdowns from day one. But I hoped it would cause other people to realize how retarded the “science” was. Somehow a lack of alcohol in a restaurant was supposed to make it less likely that the restaurant would spread a respiratory disease.

When Latoya kept Nola shut down longer than any other city and it killed their service industry jobs and drove up crime

All while skimming relief money off the top and having large personal parties with no masks in sight



Edit: this wasn't at the outset but the hypocrisy was consistent

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And the Venn diagram of hardcore maskers and BLM protesters was basically a circle

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So many videos and pictures showing these people wearing cloth masks, masks below their noses or even at their chins. At least some of them were reusing masks which is also a no-no. Pulling their masks down to drink and eat. I doubt all of them were washing and sanitizing their hands properly Many of them, especially in the larger cities, were packed shoulder to shoulder and yelling and such (so no social distancing and droplets flying everywhere especially for those cloth masks).

So while technically it was outdoors and mask “wearers” everywhere (there were still quite a few that didn’t have any masks. They didn’t follow hardly any of the protocols health departments and the CDC put out and were harping on for non-protestors to do


In addition these types were telling people to not go outside period. EXCEPT when it came to BLM protests.

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I honestly, at that point in my career, thought that a power had been given to the workforce that they'd never relinquish.

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Or you can look at it like the workforce got a taste of the European style social safety net…

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hit me when employees, truthfully or not, realized they could even leverage the threat of covid that they had or even if they thought they were exposed to because they understood that was an automatic work excuse,

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God forbid they try to keep those they love safe over making their boss more money

I respect your take, you're not wrong or right and I'm not saying that I have a definitive take. I just know, and I'm only speaking from my own experience, that I've had people during that time who were hungover and used covid symptoms as a reason to call out then said they had a negative test the next day and could return to work, but I took every instance seriously and at face value and told anyone who felt unwell to protect themselves.

You're kidding yourself if you're trying to tell me that people didn't monopolize on that aspect of the pandemic. I'm not a doctor or the honesty police, but I saw enough of what I spoke about to comment about my experience.

This was it for me. Either there is a pandemic or there isn't. And bullshite like "but their cause is just" for Antifa and BLM riots told me the authorities were simply not serious, and thus there was no actual pandemic.

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They may have, but do you blame them? The working class take it on the chin in so many ways that no one should begrudge them an extra day off or so every now and then

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I NEVER said that I blame them. Whatever someone wants to do is their call. I'm not OT rich and I was working my arse off during the pandemic. Could I have called out at times? Absolutely. What I'm saying is that the concept of work, whether hard work for low pay or any other circumstances was presented to me by my dad as a part of life. My dad would have told me "are you well enough to work? OK. It sucks that you make minimum wage but work hard to make more, you will never get there by victimizing yourself and not working. " That's my point. I'm not judging people but they took away from their potential, a lot of small businesses folded, a lot more misused government loans that were supposed to go to employees who couldn't work, etc. The effect on society mentally will reverberate. No employee was wrong(ish) but that's a fact. The mental effect will trickle down longer than anything.

What you're saying makes no sense. Some people take it in the teeth and have to work hard, that's why they call it work, what YOU'RE saying is that because of a pandemic it was reasonable for people to use that as a reason to not try at life. Again, I don't care about that decision, cool. But my point was that the underlying effect on society is disconcerting.

1) involvement of China.
2) initial reports of certain cohorts that were especially vulnerable, like the elderly, yet no HUGE push to investigate and understand this effect.
3) overreaction of stupid measures, like restricting store hours, telling people not to do things outdoors or exercise or go to the gym, yet the things that could really spread it around like air travel were not as profoundly screwed up, nothing made sense.
4) masks. Never evidence of benefit and then it became acceptable to just wear a screen door on your face like Saban and other coaches did, touting the mask as "breathable", and it was also see through, since it was nothing but a screen mesh.
5) implosion by the healthcare community into virtue signaling and pure dumbassery.

Nothing during covid made any sense. Not a single thing.
There's a bird flu conference coming up so I'm sure we'll all get to re-live this again.

This guy!

What a clown!

"You don't need masks. Stop hoarding them, hospitals are running out."

Followed by:

"You absolutely must mask up."