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re: Beyond Death: The Science of the Afterlife

Posted on 7/19/17 at 2:58 pm to
Posted by saintsfan1977
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 2:58 pm to
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What does God's omniscience or omnipotence have to do with tribes in Africa that have never heard of him?


An all powerful being that exists for his children to worship him, should ingrain their minds with his existence. I mean he is asking for us to believe in him.

Atheists are born every second of the day. His believers are spoon fed his existence.
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Posted by Paul Allen
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 2:58 pm to
Most of it
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 3:00 pm to
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An all powerful being that exists for his children to worship him, should ingrain their minds with his existence


You have an awful lot of opinions about what God shouldn't and shouldn't do, and you believe that his failure to conform to your instructions means he doesn't exist.

That's a weird set of logic in your brain.
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 3:01 pm to
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Most of it



Do you think this Saintsfan guy is ridiculous or what?
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 3:02 pm to
Yaaaay! Time for another round of everyone's favorite game......Atheist Bingo!



Posted by WiredBobcat
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 3:04 pm to
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Jesus came to save the sinners and open the kingdom of heaven to all.


Without the blood of Christ, no one will enter the kingdom of heaven and that applies to the American Indians that didn't know, unless God granted them immunity?
Posted by Paul Allen
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 3:04 pm to
Yes, a little outlandish to say the least.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 3:04 pm to
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I grieve for my loss and the loss that other people still alive have to deal with.

I believe that is why most people grieve regardless of whether there is an after life or not.


He's also forgetting that Jesus wept over Lazarus.
Posted by ctiger69
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 3:04 pm to
Funny how often Atheist debate something they don't even believe in.
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 3:05 pm to
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Without the blood of Christ, no one will enter the kingdom of heaven


The blood of Christ was shed for all. What's your point?
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 3:06 pm to
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Funny how often Atheist debate something they don't even believe in.


Hey, at least we don't go door to door.
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 3:07 pm to
He was not a worthy opponent. Too ignorant to formulate logical arguments against actual points and not quick enough to actually debate the points either of us made.
Posted by DeathValley85
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 3:07 pm to
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I'm sorry you're too ignorant to have a conversation so you feel it's ok to come shite on people's beliefs with a misplaced sense of superiority and then completely back away when you're challenged on your own beliefs. That is a horrible way to go through life. Although you believe life has no meaning and no value and refuse to discuss why, so I understand why you feel that way.


Holy shite you've gone off the deep end. It's a bit crazy you're implying that the only way to derive morality is with religion.

I think a lot of religious people would disagree with you as well.
Posted by saintsfan1977
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 3:08 pm to
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You have an awful lot of opinions about what God shouldn't and shouldn't do, and you believe that his failure to conform to your instructions means he doesn't exist.



If your god existed and was the one true god, there wouldnt be other gods. One of the 10 commandments is you should not worship other deities. This god has failed at very level to convince the world of its existence. It leaves it in the hands of the the people that invented him.
Posted by ctiger69
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 3:08 pm to
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Green Chili Tiger


So what will happen to you when you die? Your thoughts.
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 3:10 pm to
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It's a bit crazy you're implying that the only way to derive morality is with religion.


I never said that. I've said multiple times that what you're left with, if there is no God, is moral relativism. And how do you decide whose morality is right and wrong? How do you tell someone else that their belief is bad or wrong? What makes your belief superior?
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 3:12 pm to
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How would I know? I've never done them. But if I didn't believe in an afterlife then the next frickhead who was going 50 mph on the interstate in the left lane or picked all the sausage out of the gumbo before everyone got a bowl, I would just put a bullet in and move on with my life.

Then you'd get to spend your one shot at existence in prison. Why would you want to do that?
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 3:12 pm to
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If your god existed and was the one true god, there wouldnt be other gods


Why not?

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One of the 10 commandments is you should not worship other deities. 


This has been interpreted plenty of times studied and debated for centuries about the meaning as in does it mean there are other gods or is he saying not to put other things above your belief in him.

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This god has failed at very level to convince the world of its existence. 

Plenty of people in the world belive in his existence.
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 3:13 pm to
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Then you'd get to spend your one shot at existence in prison.


Only if I get caught.

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Why would you want to do that?



Angola has free food, Healthcare, rodeos, wood working, education, painting....
Posted by DeathValley85
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 3:14 pm to
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I never said that. I've said multiple times that what you're left with, if there is no God, is moral relativism. And how do you decide whose morality is right and wrong? How do you tell someone else that their belief is bad or wrong? What makes your belief superior?


I think that if there were never religion then there would still be a consensus regarding morality. I think most would still believe broad statements like, "killing other people is wrong."

I think it's impossible to avoid moral relativism either way.
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