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re: Best Working Man Job: What Trade is Best for a Young Man?

Posted on 1/19/18 at 11:47 am to
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61303 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 11:47 am to
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Some welders make a lot per hour, yes. But the ones that do are independent contractors and have large expenses like trucks, welding machines, etc. Not to mention they are responsible for buying their own rods/wire, travel, maintenance, etc etc. The majority of welders make in the mid to high 20's per hour. You can do the math and see that's not that much per year. And that doesn't account for the stints of no work


Sounds like most of the welders you know suck at it.

A good welder can get on with long term projects or travel for turnarounds and make $38-$42 an hour straight time and double for over time.
Not to mention, if you do the traveling thing, the $100 to $125 a day per diem is nice.

Not way in hell I would do it because it's hard work in sometimes brutal conditions I'm sure, but not a bad gig for those that like that kind of stuff.
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
23104 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 11:47 am to
My best friend Owns his own HVAC company, according to him people would sell their kids to have AC in their house. It also requires a lot of call outs and thats where you really make money.

Welding, you can make it pretty good but if you have a half a brain I'd be a pipe fitter. They simply don't make as many pipe welders into Job Foreman as they do pipe welders.

Plant Operator make great pay but their schedule sucks.

Plumbers make great money too, on their own they charge $60-70 bucks an hour, working on a construction crew they make about $25-35.


Don't overlook Electricians, there will always be a need for them as well or a barber, hard to find a good male barber these days and $60 an hour isn't to shabby.

Being a barber, plumber, HVAC guy or electrician is also one of the fastest ways to be a business owner.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 11:51 am to
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Jump on a boat, see the world and earn sea time. Get your captain's license and see more of the world and make good money.


If you are talking about ocean going vessels you are not going to get a captains slot without a degree from a maritime academy, same requirement for becoming a river pilot.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
44964 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 11:52 am to
This is where the OT tells us HVAC techs make 6 figs.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 11:53 am to
Plumbing or HVAC
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
23104 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 11:55 am to
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Jump on a boat, see the world and earn sea time. Get your captain's license and see more of the world and make good money.



This is a good answer too.

You're gone half the year but you only work half the year. I have several friends who run push boats and make well over $100,000 yearly. I have another buddy that was making close to $200,000 running a Supply Boat but they've been cut pretty hard.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23425 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 11:56 am to
If you are a crook Hvac. Why does it seem like half of Hvac employees and companies are in it to rip you off?

Plumbers and electricians for the most part seem to charge you pretty reasonably across the board with an hourly rate. Hvac guys show up and do 30 mins of work and love to charge you $200.
Posted by A_bear
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2013
2380 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:05 pm to
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not going to college.


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Plant operator?


Good luck. Most plants these days hire people with a degree. If you're looking for a field to start out in right now, Dow chemical in plaquemine is hiring apprentice operators and apprentice electrical and instrument techs. I think they start at $14hr. I would go I&E.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:10 pm to
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My best friend Owns his own HVAC company, according to him people would sell their kids to have AC in their house. It also requires a lot of call outs and thats where you really make money.


I once owned a airplane with two partners, one was a Neurologist, the other owned a small HVAC company, it seemed like he was dong better financially than the Neurologist.
Posted by Jack Daniel
Gold member
Member since Feb 2013
28765 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:10 pm to
And playing in shite the rest of the year
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21510 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:16 pm to
1. Plant operator- but those jobs are tough to get and the better ones require an education(degree in process technology at least).

2. Best paying, no college will be in Industrial Industry(New Project work, Refinery, Chemical Plant, Power Plant)work.
Welder/Pipefitter/Operator/Rigger/Scaffold/Iron Worker/Insulator- good paying, definitely "working man" jobs.
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2762 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:19 pm to
Since no one said it... Instrument technician/Controls and Automation Technician. It's typically the highest paid craft in a plant environment or at least it was in the past.

Great work, lots of thinking and if you are good you can write your own ticket so to speak. In addition you can work anywhere. Control is control no matter where you are.

It can be a tough field to "break in" to but if you are determined you can do it. Once you're in, you're in.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:20 pm to
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If you are a crook Hvac. Why does it seem like half of Hvac employees and companies are in it to rip you off? Plumbers and electricians for the most part seem to charge you pretty reasonably across the board with an hourly rate. Hvac guys show up and do 30 mins of work and love to charge you $200.


You are a crook if you charge the market rate for you services?
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
17060 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:20 pm to
E & I always in demand and not tied to plant jobs only. Good Instrument guys are tough to find nowadays, everyone wants to be an operator.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297283 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:20 pm to
Crane operator.
Heavy equipment operator
Posted by lsu1919
Member since May 2017
3244 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:22 pm to
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Suppose you were just setting out in the world and were not going to college. What would be the best trade to take up today?

Plumbing?
HVAC?
Welding?


Any of these, with the caveat, that the goal should be to own your own business one day.

Where you make money is when people work for you and you make dollars for every hour they work.
Posted by Sparkplug#1
Member since May 2013
7352 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:25 pm to
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f you are talking about ocean going vessels you are not going to get a captains slot without a degree from a maritime academy, same requirement for becoming a river pilot.


Not true in my case, but I’ve been doing it for over 25 years. It is harder these days, but still doable. Experience and a big license can still work, especially in the private sector.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94811 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:26 pm to
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HVAC


Would be my pick - a lot of upside. You can stay in new construction, ultimately open up your own sales/service shop - you do have to crawl around in attics in the worst parts of the Summer, but otherwise, you're not digging around in shite (plumber), getting killed by Bobby Joe who's been up for 3 days and breaking up with little mama (Offshore) or getting blown the frick up while going about your day (Plant operator).
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
16692 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:28 pm to
Join the marines
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91639 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:32 pm to
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<-- Glazing Trade


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