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re: Best explanation I've heard, difference between regular flu vs CV

Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:49 am to
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103454 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:49 am to
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Cliff notes?


Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8127 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:50 am to
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So, Swine flu and Bird flu weren’t actually the flu at all?


No they were flus
Posted by Hogwarts
Arkansas, USA
Member since Sep 2015
18300 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:50 am to
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Cliff notes?


China done fricked us all because they eat bats and made the virus mad and now its attacking humans.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
22281 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:51 am to
Dammit! I can never figure out this lookin' sexy thing!
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
129073 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:51 am to
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Could it just as easily mutate toward something more benign as it could to something more harmful?


Yes and this is what viruses typically but not always do

A virus isnt exactly “alive” but still wants to replicate and move on to another host. If you kill your hosts too quickly cant do that

This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 10:52 am
Posted by Clint Eastwood
Member since May 2015
229 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:51 am to
Yall post all day every day about CV but can't take time to read this?
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
71955 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:51 am to
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Now, here comes this Coronavirus... it existed in animals only, for nobody knows how long...but one day, at an animal market, in Wuhan China, in December 2019, it mutated and made the jump from animal to people.




But it’s still true.

Also, this....

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This Coronavirus, not being in any form a “human” virus (whereas we would all have some natural or acquired immunity), took off like a rocket. And this was because humans have no known immunity...doctors have no known medicines for it.


Drug used to originally fight malaria showing promise in treating coronavirus, Oklahoma Medical Research Foundation says
Posted by eddieray
Lafayette
Member since Mar 2006
19009 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:52 am to
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Cliff notes?


Our bodies fight the flu better because our bodies recognize it on an RNA level. Not so when viruses jump from animal to human like this one. Also, this virus seems to be good at mutating which may make vaccination trickier
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
12618 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:52 am to
Interesting, basic explanation. But how much do we really know about how this got started? Did it really make the jump "one day" in December 2019 in the Wuhan market? Maybe, but I have a feeling that there is more to it than this. And did it really start in December?
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
46239 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:52 am to
Doctors having no known medicines for it is just another embellishment
Posted by MojoGuyPan
Intercession City, Florida
Member since Jun 2018
2797 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:52 am to
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This was written by an Associate Professor of
Microbiology, Immunology & Parasitology
LSU School of Medicine


Who? Why is this anonymous and espouse, verbatim, the government spin on the virus? Fake news.

I'll trust LSUS' esteemed microbiologist, epidemiologist, Amanda Sutherland to explanation of Covid-19 before this gov't backed a-hole.
Posted by FulshearTiger
Member since Jul 2015
5294 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:53 am to
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Cliff notes?


You could just read instead of being a fricking idiot.
Posted by Brummy
Central, LA
Member since Oct 2009
4661 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:53 am to
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in just TWO WEEKS it mutated again and gained the ability to jump from human to human

How could it have been determined how long it took to mutate? Wouldn't that require knowing who "patient zero" is and exactly when they were infected? I'm sure there were thousands of people in that market on a daily basis.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109519 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:53 am to
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quote:
Could it just as easily mutate toward something more benign as it could to something more harmful?



Do you think this may be what happened in China? What (outside of completely fudging numbers) explains their precipitous decline in cases?
Posted by LSUGolfman
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2019
182 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:54 am to
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Proceeds to post massive wall of text


You need to get your processor checked if you think that's a massive wall of text.

Thanks OP. Good post.
Posted by RabidTiger
Member since Nov 2009
3127 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:54 am to
What are you getting at? When else is a virus going to jump species besides "one day?"
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44062 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:55 am to
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Novel viruses, come from animals.... the WHO ( World Health Org.) tracks novel viruses in animals, (sometimes for years watching for mutations). Usually these viruses only transfer from animal to animal (pigs in the case of H1N1) (birds in the case of the Spanish flu).

But once, one of these animal viruses mutates, and starts to transfer from animals to humans... then it’s a problem, Why? Because we have no natural or acquired immunity.. the RNA sequencing of the genes inside the virus isn’t human, and the human immune system doesn’t recognize it so, we can’t fight it off.


after reading your post, I'm curious about why dogs are immune
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
71955 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:55 am to
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Doctors having no known medicines for it is just another embellishment


I find it telling that news of a potentially effective medicine to treat this virus isn’t major news on our national media outlets. I had to link a story from a local news station in Oklahoma. Why isn’t aFox, CNN, MSNBC and the rest not reporting this?
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
79203 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:56 am to
The poliboard in a nutshell.

Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109519 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 10:56 am to
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Doctors having no known medicines for it is just another embellishment




Yeah, I think it was just a scarier way of saying, doctors had to figure out what medicines may be useful for it, as a novel virus.
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