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re: Beach home in Mexico Beach, FL survives Hurricane Michael "nearly untouched"

Posted on 10/16/18 at 12:42 pm to
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
40880 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 12:42 pm to
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Who else had never heard of Mexico Beach prior to Michael?



I knew of it because my family has a place 6 miles east of Mexico Beach and another on the the cape at PSJ. We're heading down on Thursday to survey the damage to both places. We know the one on the mainland has a pine across it and the front porch is on the roof. We plan to launch in PSJ at the bridge to get to the cape. The road is completely gone so it's only water access.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15751 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 12:44 pm to
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You can also be bet on building codes being changed


Look at google earth maps of Biloxi. 13 years after Katrina there are still slabs along the beach where it is cost prohibitive to rebuild a house due to changes in the building codes and FEMA’s new building-height requirements.
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13135 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 12:44 pm to
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The concrete truck brought all of that concrete to use on the home.


Pilings are delivered already formed with plenty of rebar, and driven into the ground. I've got 16 of them under my house, some as deep as 40 feet. If his walls really are concrete that adds a lot to the weight and requires more pilings to support it. Building a truly storm proof concrete house is expensive, a friend looked into it. Most people do use Hardie Board (cement/fiber) for the siding and metal hip roofs with extra strapping and this is supposed to get a house to 130 MPH or better.
Posted by pjab
Member since Mar 2016
5761 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 12:45 pm to
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what did he win for being the last guy standing. his neighborhood is shite for the next decade.


It’s a Catch 22. Sometimes it’s better to get destroyed, paid out by insurance, and reassess.
Posted by LessofLes
Member since Sep 2010
1711 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 12:46 pm to
I’ll be surprised if that happens here. They call it the forgotten coast for a reason and every HOA I encountered before buying a lot on the cape aimed to keep it that way.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34216 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 12:48 pm to
The guy said it didn't cost that much more. Concrete pilings vs. wooden pilings. Whats the difference in price?

This guy still has damage but hopefully his deductible is 1% or lower.

I can imagine they getting power restored to his house ASAP and then he can rent it out for emergency personel and insurance adjusters to use for months
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
7050 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 12:49 pm to
I am one of the few insurance agents in Alabama that is certified in fortified homes.

The IBHS (Insurance Institute for Business and Home Safety) came out with criteria a couple years back that was proven to mitigate from severe, catastrophic losses. Only six states (AL, TX, OK, MS, GA, & SC) have adopted the standards.

There are three levels:

Bronze- metal roof, sheathing and insulation, double wraps/straps tying the roof to the home

Silver- Bronze + impact resistant glass/doors/openings

Gold- Bronze+Silver + continuous load path from roof to foundation

Orange Beach is the only municipality in the country to give homebuilders back their permit fees if they build to the Gold Fortified Standards. We are begging others to follow.

There is an inspection process that is cumbersome, but we are insuring homes along the coast in Gulf Shores & Orange Beach for less than $2,000 if they meet the standards.

For more, visit:

IBHS Website

60 minutes did a neat segment on this awhile back.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
29855 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 12:50 pm to
Worked in Panama City for 6 months. So Ive been there before.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58520 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 12:51 pm to
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Those rules will disappear with the stroke of a pen, the potential for long term exponential growth in city government revenue from property taxes, building permits, and sales tax growth is not something local lawmakers will ignore. You can also be bet on building codes being changed to assure that there will be no one building or rebuilding a home on the beach without spending a million dollars plus. This type of transition has occurred at ever beach community that has experienced a similar disaster.
sad but true. I remember part of the gulfcoast that were all beach houses and now it is all highrises.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111473 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 12:54 pm to
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Beachfront property with no neighbors.
For the next 2 years he is going to have 10x as many neighbors


Jose, Carlos, Juan etc etc will be working next to him for a while
Posted by ChineseBandit66
Denver, Colorado
Member since Jul 2013
1794 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 12:54 pm to
You are wrong baw. Bigger and better. He is seeing $$ signs right now.
Posted by LessofLes
Member since Sep 2010
1711 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 12:55 pm to
The road is jacked by the stump hole but you can get around it by truck or SUV. You can also pass on the beach to get around but just watch the tide. People are parking and walking but you can hitch a ride with those who have gotten thru.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58520 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 12:55 pm to
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how do you hang pics on a concrete wall
wall anchors...just like brick. Or adhesive.

quote:

How do they run the electrical stuff?
conduit.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58520 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 12:56 pm to
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The outer walls are concrete. I’d imagine that the interior walls are Sheetrock


most are. but there would need to be enough shear walls so i bet there are some that are concrete inside.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
76277 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 12:56 pm to
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For the next 2 years he is going to have 10x as many neighbors


Jose, Carlos, Juan etc etc will be working next to him for a while

quote:

For the next 2 years he is going to have 10x as many neighbors


Jose, Carlos, Juan etc etc will be working next to him for a while




time to invest in a taco truck
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13135 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 12:59 pm to
Concrete pilings ran me $35k including driving them in. Wooden would probably have been $25k - $30K. Nobody is using wood here anymore.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
26700 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 1:05 pm to
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Nothing says "beach vacation" quite like the sound of construction all around you


Going to mostly be sound of insurance papers going back and forth this winter. Shouldn't be too loud.
Posted by BigDawg0420
Hamsterdam
Member since Apr 2010
7502 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 1:05 pm to
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Dr. Lebron Lackey told ABC News of the vacation home he built last year with his uncle.


Dr. Lebron doing work
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58520 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 1:08 pm to
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Concrete pilings vs. wooden pilings. Whats the difference in price?

timber piles are about $27/ft so about 1600 for a 60' pile.
18" prestressed concrete piles are about $75/ft
Posted by LSUBFA83
Member since May 2012
4238 posts
Posted on 10/16/18 at 1:08 pm to
This is similar to the way the old plantation homes were built near the coast and along the Mississippi. They used brick instead of cement, of course. Ground floor was meant to be flooded. Old dudes knew what they were doing.
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