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Posted on 3/17/18 at 10:58 pm to LSU316
I get that there's always some gamesmanship to skirt the rules and save money, but these companies need to be responsible and be decent stewards of the land. It's worth the investment in the long run.
Posted on 3/17/18 at 11:05 pm to upgrayedd
From what I understand one of the big gripes in the basin for this one is disposal of trees that come down.
Forever, the common practice was to just throw the SOBs aside and leave them where they lay. This happened in the basin and on normal RoWs. The Corp instructed the pipeline builders to chip the trees and put the chips in the basin/Marsh/whatever this time. The Corp said this was good for the environment....and that is what the builders did. The anti groups latched onto this like crazy. I'm not sure who is right but I'm not sure you can fault the builder for doing what the ACoE said to do.
Forever, the common practice was to just throw the SOBs aside and leave them where they lay. This happened in the basin and on normal RoWs. The Corp instructed the pipeline builders to chip the trees and put the chips in the basin/Marsh/whatever this time. The Corp said this was good for the environment....and that is what the builders did. The anti groups latched onto this like crazy. I'm not sure who is right but I'm not sure you can fault the builder for doing what the ACoE said to do.
Posted on 3/17/18 at 11:54 pm to LSU316
Yeah, I get it. Chipping is probably the way to go because it doesn't inhibit flow which is essential to the overall health of the basin.
Posted on 3/18/18 at 7:02 am to BRgetthenet
Sure, Energy Transfer claims to create twelve permanent jobs. Some people believe that the women in a food truck that follow the spread who slap a sausage in a bisket will be a boon to the economy. "We build it and leave" is the motto of the pipeline workers.
This post was edited on 3/18/18 at 8:35 am
Posted on 3/18/18 at 7:06 am to upgrayedd
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I'm pro pipeline, but these pipeline companies need to do a better job of cleaning up after themselves after installation.
I have three running thro some land I own. I never had problems with them after any work.
Posted on 3/18/18 at 7:14 am to Cowboyfan89
Agree, it was the judge's contention. On the other hand, the same judge dismissed the suit for the release of public records in favor of the pipeline company.
The reason for the decision was that no public monies were being used. The plaintiffs claimed that the pipeline company strongarmed many landowners with expropriation and threats of eminent domain with the public purpose argument, and purported to be an arm of the state. Then Enteregy Transfer conveniently reverted to being a private company. A motion to appeal this decision will be forthcoming.
The reason for the decision was that no public monies were being used. The plaintiffs claimed that the pipeline company strongarmed many landowners with expropriation and threats of eminent domain with the public purpose argument, and purported to be an arm of the state. Then Enteregy Transfer conveniently reverted to being a private company. A motion to appeal this decision will be forthcoming.
Posted on 3/18/18 at 7:31 am to fishfighter
Targa Midstream has an underground pipeline at some family property near Sulphur. It transports natural gas but was built in 1943 to transport jet fuel to support the war effort. Targa did a good job restoring the temporary work space granted to make necessary repairs. The small consideration we were paid for the workspace was of mutual benefit to all.
I learned that all pipelines will eventually leak. I was told in the 1950's that pipeline inspectors earned about $125 a week and that it was commonplace for them to find a fifth of Ole Crow with a fifty wrapped around it on the seat of their trucks. Many questionable welds were overlooked.
I learned that all pipelines will eventually leak. I was told in the 1950's that pipeline inspectors earned about $125 a week and that it was commonplace for them to find a fifth of Ole Crow with a fifty wrapped around it on the seat of their trucks. Many questionable welds were overlooked.
Posted on 3/18/18 at 7:55 am to tigerinthebueche
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Bayou Bridge Pipeline is committed to restoring 100% of any affected area – at the company’s own expense.
Hmm
Posted on 3/18/18 at 8:39 am to DustyDinkleman
Some of the environmentalists are claiming that century old cypress trees cannot be ecologically replaced with five year old oak trees.
Liberty Mutual Insurance-What do you want me to do? Drive three-fourths of a car?
Liberty Mutual Insurance-What do you want me to do? Drive three-fourths of a car?
Posted on 3/18/18 at 8:57 am to CharleyLake
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learned that all pipelines will eventually leak. I was told in the 1950's that pipeline inspectors earned about $125 a week and that it was commonplace for them to find a fifth of Ole Crow with a fifty wrapped around it on the seat of their trucks. Many questionable welds were overlooked.
Is there a point? Doctors used to smoke cigarettes while treating patients back then too. Things have gotten much better since then. In both professions.
Posted on 3/18/18 at 9:37 am to tigerinthebueche
Sure. The pipeline companies would have you believe that their safety is much greater that other means of transportation for crude oil. I submit that the leak will be much larger in a swamp than a tanker spill on I-10 that can be cleaned up more quickly.
My other issue with many of these private-for-profit groups like Bayou Bridge is that they spend more money on advertisements touting that they are a good neighbor as opposed to actually being a good neighbor.
My other issue with many of these private-for-profit groups like Bayou Bridge is that they spend more money on advertisements touting that they are a good neighbor as opposed to actually being a good neighbor.
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