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Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:28 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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new higher* sales tax
Why do people still think that republicans are for small government? People need to face the facts that we have 2 leftwing parties.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:35 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Man just let it go. Don’t you see those posters are going to start cutting their own hair and perform sock puppet shows for their kids as was to avoid the new tax because they have outstanding personal responsibility 
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:39 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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Man just let it go. Don’t you see those posters are going to start cutting their own hair and perform sock puppet shows for their kids as was to avoid the new tax because they have outstanding personal responsibility
I’ll make more money from this, so whatever I guess. I just hate to see my brothers and sisters of Louisiana get sold a bill of goods
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:42 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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If Louisiana dropped ALL income and property taxes in favor of a 25% sales tax, how far away from a neighboring state would you have to be for you to buy that new fridge in Louisiana?
I'd move to Louisiana immediately.
This post was edited on 12/12/24 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:43 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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I’m not ignorant or narcissistic enough to think I know how someone who died 200 years ago would think about something they didn’t even fathom existed.
We can see that. You're ignorant and narcissistic enough to pretend this is something we can't know. They certainly never let it be known what their thoughts were on the issue.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:44 pm to imjustafatkid
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They certainly never let it be known what their thoughts were on the issue
That is correct
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:45 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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so yes. You did say something of the sort.
OK, my mistake. Let me be more clear:
Yes, I do believe people who are currently pay income taxes will end up paying less in a consumption-tax based system. So when someone makes a blanket statement that most on this board will pay more (or me personally, in this case), I think that poster is incorrect.
No, I don't think they will pay less in SALES taxes.
This post was edited on 12/12/24 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:48 pm to imjustafatkid
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Yes, I do believe people who are currently pay income taxes will end up paying less in a consumption-tax based system
What is the basis of this other than that’s what you believe? Even in the proposal the state claims that by increasing the sales tax rate will be revenue neutral with the income tax reduction… then a couple of weeks later they add digital products to the sale tax base.
Walk me through that math
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:48 pm to DavidTheGnome
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Well no it’s not voluntary. If I buy something I have to pay. And here in the real world it takes spending to survive.
Sure, but if you tried hard enough and worked hard enough you could eventually move yourself away from paying consumption taxes.
What can you do to move yourself away from paying income and/or property taxes and other compulsory taxes?
This post was edited on 12/12/24 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:49 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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That is correct
This is fantastic.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:51 pm to imjustafatkid
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This is fantastic.
Send me some literature on their thoughts on the pros and cons of sales tax as opposed to state income tax. I’d be fascinated to hear their thoughts of the matter
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:53 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:it’s possible. It will be a case by case basis and be primarily driven by their income and not the “extra” purchases they are make .
Yes, I do believe people who are currently pay income taxes will end up paying less in a consumption-tax based system. So when someone makes a blanket statement that most on this board will pay more, I think that poster is incorrect. No, I don't think they will pay less in SALES taxes.
Yes I know this is the OT and everyone here is millionaires. But to mingo and i’s point, we are discussing the outcome for the average Louisiana citizen. And this change will increase the tax burden for the average Louisiana resident
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:55 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Send me some literature on their thoughts on the pros and cons of sales tax as opposed to state income tax. I’d be fascinated to hear their thoughts of the matter
They literally ran the country on tariffs, which are consumption taxes, and completely rejected income taxes (especially the idea of a "progressive income tax").
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:56 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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Yes I know this is the OT and everyone here is millionaires. But to mingo and i’s point, we are discussing the outcome for the average Louisiana citizen. And this change will increase the tax burden for the average Louisiana resident
Potentially. If they were to eliminate property and income taxes completely, and run solely on consumption taxes, all Louisianans would end up better off over time.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:56 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Y’all’s baw
Wut?
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:57 pm to BugAC
quote:we act like LA is the only state trying to figure this out...
Just tax everyone more via income tax so you don't have to be bothered with silly things like budgets, or personal responsibility.
eliminate the state income tax
lower the state sales tax
eliminate revenue-negative tax breaks and credits
lower overall spending, reduce waste & redundancies, collect what is owed and charge for services rendered
hire me...my rates are reasonable
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:57 pm to imjustafatkid
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Sure, but if you tried hard enough and worked hard enough you could eventually move yourself away from paying consumption taxes.
How? Growing my own crops? Sewing my own clothes? It’s nonsense that people convince themselves is somehow better because it’s not on muh income even though you’ll very likely pay more.
I’ve never understood the hate against income as the metric for taxation. Literally no one in the history of ever has said I only get to keep 70 cents or whatever it would be of every dollar I make so fvck I don’t want that 70 cents. Or convince themselves they’re better off paying 35 cents because “they got to choose to do so”.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:58 pm to imjustafatkid
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If they were to eliminate property and income taxes completely, and run solely on consumption taxes, all Louisianans would end up better off over time.
If they did this there’d hardly be any Louisianans
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:58 pm to imjustafatkid
But if you moved to lousiana, would you dutifully pay the extra 15+% on every purchase you made or would you be sure to make as many of your larger purchases as possible in MS or TX where the same items are significantly cheaper?
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