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re: Baton Rouge, Louisiana is now off of the hook
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:26 am to Salmon
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:26 am to Salmon
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I prefer that over shoot and ask questions later
So cop needs to risk his life to satisfy the almighty Salmon when a person is not following his orders and reaches for something. I'll never agree to that.
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Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:27 am to Salmon
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if the cop shot me there, would y'all say it was justified?
He probably would yell at you first. Would you continue with what you were doing if he told you to freeze?
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:28 am to LNCHBOX
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Really, they just got the wrong car?
yes
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It's pretty stupid on your part, and you opened yourself up to that possibility.
never even crossed my mind till now, I was just checking on my daughter, which is priority IMO
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:28 am to LNCHBOX
When you ask someone for their ID. You cannot just shoot them when they do as you said. WTF
The guy said he legally owns a firearm, and was correct. What criminal would tell a cop that he has a firearm, reach for it, and then proceed to shoot the cop. Seriously, does that really makes sense?
The guy said he legally owns a firearm, and was correct. What criminal would tell a cop that he has a firearm, reach for it, and then proceed to shoot the cop. Seriously, does that really makes sense?
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:29 am to QJenk
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When you ask someone for their ID. You cannot just shoot them when they do as you said. WTF
Did I say they could?
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The guy said he legally owns a firearm, and was correct. What criminal would tell a cop that he has a firearm, reach for it, and then proceed to shoot the cop. Seriously, does that really makes sense?
It makes as much sense as someone reaching when told not to. None of it makes sense.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:29 am to Salmon
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never even crossed my mind till now
White privilege
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:29 am to LNCHBOX
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So cop needs to risk his life to satisfy the almighty Salmon when a person is not following his orders and reaches for something. I'll never agree to that.
its JMO
it also depends on how the person is acting and the situation
like I said, if the guy was acting aggressive towards the cop I would change my mind
but if someone is acting calm and has been upfront with you the whole time, then yes, I strongly believe in the wait and see
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:29 am to QJenk
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The guy said he legally owns a firearm, and was correct. What criminal would tell a cop that he has a firearm, reach for it, and then proceed to shoot the cop. Seriously, does that really makes sense?
You're taking her story as being 100% accurate. If it happened like she said, 99% would say murder.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:29 am to slackster
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It's more than unlikely. I don't expect a cop to risk his life either, but I'm getting tired of how low the threshold for "life threatening" has become.
absolutely
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:30 am to LNCHBOX
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Baton Rouge, Louisiana is now off of the hook
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I prefer that over shoot and ask questions later
So cop needs to risk his life to satisfy the almighty Salmon when a person is not following his orders and reaches for something. I'll never agree to that.
Being a cop is risking your life. You cant just kill someone because you were scared and not have to be held accountable at all ever.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:30 am to NYNolaguy1
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Without watching a video of what happened, I find it troubling you assume the very panicky cop is automatically in the right because he has a badge and a gun.
quote where i said this
People should just act like they are sleeping. Nobody is gonna shoot a sleeping person. go limp like a sleeping cat.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:30 am to LNCHBOX
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Complying doesn't mean you think he's right. I've complied with officers that I thought were wrong before. Nothing good comes from not complying.
Not necessarily disagreeing (although legally I can think of plenty of scenarios where not complying is legal but I digress)- what I am saying is that nothing I have seen so far leads me to believe he didn't comply. In fact if he did disclose he's a a CCL holder, he's the one following the rules. The point I have a problem with is simply believing the officer because he has a badge.
Like I said, assuming the dash cam tape isn't melting somewhere, I hope we see it. Until then it's hard to say what happened, though I am leaning towards the drivers story without more info.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:30 am to QJenk
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You cant just kill someone because you were scared and not have to be held accountable at all ever.
Well it's a good thing I never said that either.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:30 am to thegreatboudini
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Just curious, but is there factual evidence that he was a straight A student and that he had no criminal record?
The cop was Asian, so I think this is a safe assumption.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:31 am to NYNolaguy1
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(although legally I can think of plenty of scenarios where not complying is legal but I digress)
never said it wasn't legal. It's just not smart.
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The point I have a problem with is simply believing the officer because he has a badge.
No one said to believe him just because he has a badge. You're making up an argument that no one is having.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:32 am to ULSU
I'm talking about the dead guy. People are claiming he had no criminal record and was a straight A student in high school.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:32 am to LNCHBOX
Well what did you say sir, help me understand.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:32 am to LNCHBOX
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It's amazing how easy it is for some of yall to Monday morning QB these situations.
Well, a dude is fricking dead, so I think second-guessing is more than appropriate.
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:36 am to Nado Jenkins83
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quote where i said this
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why can't people just comply.
everyone is a smartass now a days and doesn't want to follow an order.
Why are you assuming he didn't comply? Because the cop said so?
Posted on 7/7/16 at 9:37 am to Pettifogger
also, is the cop not allowed to help the guy after he shoots him?
is he not allowed to move the body in this type of situation?
all cops have more than basic EMT training these days
is he not allowed to move the body in this type of situation?
all cops have more than basic EMT training these days
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