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backup generators for gas stations and grocery stores

Posted on 8/29/20 at 5:30 pm
Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
35928 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 5:30 pm
I thought one of the major lessons learned from Katrina was that support infrastructure needed to be open to allow people to come back and that gas stations and grocery stores should have backup generators.

Noticed a post about not being able to find an open gas station in DeRidder and was wondering if anyone continued to push for backup generators or at a minimum having the wiring in place for easy hookup?

I know that Jindal pushed this and it seemed to work well for Ivan in the NOLA area, did the effort simply die with time?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
39167 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 5:35 pm to
Costs money to buy and maintain.

Thin margins for gas and grocery
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17163 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 5:37 pm to
Could probably include zoning that any new retail establishment over 40,000 square feet should have a backup generator/solar system to power security alarms, 50% of their lighting, POS systems, and any freezer/refrigeration system.

It’s going to be hard to get the smaller grocery or gas stations to do that. Margins are thin.

Another thing - Only some traffic lights in Baton Rouge have battery backup. That needs to be more prevalent along with more underground utilities to avoid storm damage.
This post was edited on 8/29/20 at 5:41 pm
Posted by QuietTiger
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2003
26256 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 5:53 pm to
Langenstein's has one so I'm good. I stock pile gas and propane.
Posted by Tim
Texas
Member since Jan 2005
7086 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 5:55 pm to
It’s always easy to spot those that have never owned a business
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36958 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 6:06 pm to
Most of the convenience stores around us have them.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15480 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 6:07 pm to
November 17, 2011


2011-R-0389

BACK UP POWER REQUIREMENTS FOR SERVICE STATIONS

By: Paul Frisman, Principal Analyst

You asked about state laws requiring service stations to have back up power sources to provide emergency power during a power outage.

SUMMARY

Florida and Louisiana appear to be the only states that require motor fuel facilities, including service stations, to be able to switch to an alternative energy source during a power outage.

Florida requires motor fuel (1) service stations near interstate highways or evacuation routes, (2) terminals and (3) wholesalers to have transfer switches and appropriate wiring to transfer the electrical load from a utility to an alternate generated power sources in the event of a power failure. It requires corporations or entities with at least 10 service stations in a county to have access to at least one portable generator.

Like Florida, Louisiana requires certain service stations to be wired with a transfer switch and capable of switching to an alternate generated power source in the event of a power outage. But Louisiana's law applies only to new or completely rebuilt service stations in the southern portion of the state.
Posted by Ham And Glass
Member since Nov 2016
1625 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 6:42 pm to
Pretty simple and logical to install a manual transfer switch with cam locks, but there’s only so many rental gensets to go around in a wide spread outage.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
102283 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 6:49 pm to
Say you have 100 stores. Installing a generator costs 20k each (no idea, just a guess). A CFO is going to look sideways at that investment, especially if it's been a few years since a major disaster.
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 7:03 pm to
quote:

Most of the convenience stores around us have them.


This here too!
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 7:28 pm to
Its DeRidder man. They barely have broadband interwebs
Posted by FlagLake
"Da Ship"
Member since Feb 2006
2428 posts
Posted on 8/29/20 at 8:17 pm to
We have two small grocery storeS in our rural area and both of them have backup generators. There is no reason to not have them.
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