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backup generators for gas stations and grocery stores
Posted on 8/29/20 at 5:30 pm
Posted on 8/29/20 at 5:30 pm
I thought one of the major lessons learned from Katrina was that support infrastructure needed to be open to allow people to come back and that gas stations and grocery stores should have backup generators.
Noticed a post about not being able to find an open gas station in DeRidder and was wondering if anyone continued to push for backup generators or at a minimum having the wiring in place for easy hookup?
I know that Jindal pushed this and it seemed to work well for Ivan in the NOLA area, did the effort simply die with time?
Noticed a post about not being able to find an open gas station in DeRidder and was wondering if anyone continued to push for backup generators or at a minimum having the wiring in place for easy hookup?
I know that Jindal pushed this and it seemed to work well for Ivan in the NOLA area, did the effort simply die with time?
Posted on 8/29/20 at 5:35 pm to vl100butch
Costs money to buy and maintain.
Thin margins for gas and grocery
Thin margins for gas and grocery
Posted on 8/29/20 at 5:37 pm to vl100butch
Could probably include zoning that any new retail establishment over 40,000 square feet should have a backup generator/solar system to power security alarms, 50% of their lighting, POS systems, and any freezer/refrigeration system.
It’s going to be hard to get the smaller grocery or gas stations to do that. Margins are thin.
Another thing - Only some traffic lights in Baton Rouge have battery backup. That needs to be more prevalent along with more underground utilities to avoid storm damage.
It’s going to be hard to get the smaller grocery or gas stations to do that. Margins are thin.
Another thing - Only some traffic lights in Baton Rouge have battery backup. That needs to be more prevalent along with more underground utilities to avoid storm damage.
This post was edited on 8/29/20 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 8/29/20 at 5:53 pm to vl100butch
Langenstein's has one so I'm good. I stock pile gas and propane.
Posted on 8/29/20 at 5:55 pm to vl100butch
It’s always easy to spot those that have never owned a business
Posted on 8/29/20 at 6:06 pm to Tim
Most of the convenience stores around us have them.
Posted on 8/29/20 at 6:07 pm to vl100butch
November 17, 2011
2011-R-0389
BACK UP POWER REQUIREMENTS FOR SERVICE STATIONS
By: Paul Frisman, Principal Analyst
You asked about state laws requiring service stations to have back up power sources to provide emergency power during a power outage.
SUMMARY
Florida and Louisiana appear to be the only states that require motor fuel facilities, including service stations, to be able to switch to an alternative energy source during a power outage.
Florida requires motor fuel (1) service stations near interstate highways or evacuation routes, (2) terminals and (3) wholesalers to have transfer switches and appropriate wiring to transfer the electrical load from a utility to an alternate generated power sources in the event of a power failure. It requires corporations or entities with at least 10 service stations in a county to have access to at least one portable generator.
Like Florida, Louisiana requires certain service stations to be wired with a transfer switch and capable of switching to an alternate generated power source in the event of a power outage. But Louisiana's law applies only to new or completely rebuilt service stations in the southern portion of the state.
2011-R-0389
BACK UP POWER REQUIREMENTS FOR SERVICE STATIONS
By: Paul Frisman, Principal Analyst
You asked about state laws requiring service stations to have back up power sources to provide emergency power during a power outage.
SUMMARY
Florida and Louisiana appear to be the only states that require motor fuel facilities, including service stations, to be able to switch to an alternative energy source during a power outage.
Florida requires motor fuel (1) service stations near interstate highways or evacuation routes, (2) terminals and (3) wholesalers to have transfer switches and appropriate wiring to transfer the electrical load from a utility to an alternate generated power sources in the event of a power failure. It requires corporations or entities with at least 10 service stations in a county to have access to at least one portable generator.
Like Florida, Louisiana requires certain service stations to be wired with a transfer switch and capable of switching to an alternate generated power source in the event of a power outage. But Louisiana's law applies only to new or completely rebuilt service stations in the southern portion of the state.
Posted on 8/29/20 at 6:42 pm to weadjust
Pretty simple and logical to install a manual transfer switch with cam locks, but there’s only so many rental gensets to go around in a wide spread outage.
Posted on 8/29/20 at 6:49 pm to vl100butch
Say you have 100 stores. Installing a generator costs 20k each (no idea, just a guess). A CFO is going to look sideways at that investment, especially if it's been a few years since a major disaster.
Posted on 8/29/20 at 7:03 pm to tigerinthebueche
quote:
Most of the convenience stores around us have them.
This here too!
Posted on 8/29/20 at 7:28 pm to vl100butch
Its DeRidder man. They barely have broadband interwebs
Posted on 8/29/20 at 8:17 pm to vl100butch
We have two small grocery storeS in our rural area and both of them have backup generators. There is no reason to not have them.
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