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re: Auto Workers want what????

Posted on 9/10/23 at 3:35 pm to
Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
4724 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 3:35 pm to
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Mental health has gone to shite because parents and teachers told kids that they were special and made them soft. Nobody has coping skills anymore other than booze, drugs, and suicide. People made it through the Great Depression because they were mentally and emotionally resilient, unlike these pussy kids today.



First of all, you sound like youre about 85 years old… second of all, you sound completely delusional .



*apologies if ur mental faculties are actually in decline, b/c it sure seems like it .
Posted by Rza32
Member since Nov 2008
4107 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 3:38 pm to
Lots of auto workers, which ones?
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
17691 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 3:47 pm to
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First of all, you sound like youre about 85 years old… second of all, you sound completely delusional .


I'm 49 and have been working my arse of since I was 16. In 1998, as a rookie patrolman, I was making $28,500/year. My wife got pregnant, had complications, and got put on bed rest for months. What did I do? I fricking WORKED. I worked OT, every off-duty security job I could land, and even worked as a substitute teacher on my days off for $65/day. That wasn't so that we could have nice shite. That was to keep the electric company from turning our lights off. One of my regular gigs was working one side job from 8-5, a second side job from 5-10, and 3rd side job from 10-2. Why? Because taking care of my wife and daughter was my duty. Not the government's, not my family's. MINE. It took years, but I finally clawed my way out of that hole. For that reason, even though I can afford to live well, I still drive a 20 year old car and live well below my means because I never want to go back to that. I've told my kids "you're special to me because you're mine and I love you. Just understand that the world at large doesn't give a frick about you and plan accordingly."
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
10516 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 3:57 pm to
The US auto makers will run themselves out of business. Elon will help them out of the door. Stupid UAW can't seem to understand where they are at right now in the market. It will hurt auto makers so much bc people will have a limit that they will pay and this kind of stuff will push it too far.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
17691 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 4:00 pm to
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The US auto makers will run themselves out of business.

Not as long as baws keep paying $80K for a truck.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
130271 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 4:14 pm to
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Pensions went away for a reason. Companies phased them out over years. They aren’t giving up that nut.


Govt still has great pensions
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
130271 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 4:16 pm to
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Mental health has gone to shite because parents and teachers told kids that they were special and made them soft. Nobody has coping skills anymore other than booze, drugs, and suicide. People made it through the Great Depression because they were mentally and emotionally resilient, unlike these pussy kids today.


Yep. 100% true. The future of this country is already set. It won't be all that long now.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
79382 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 4:17 pm to
Well and in return part of their check goes to the mob.

Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
17691 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 4:18 pm to
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Govt still has great pensions

Meh. Surprisingly, many municipalities have better pensions than the FedGov. I'm fortunate that my city is in the Texas Municipal Retirement System. It's allowed me to not pay into the Ponzi scheme of Social Security.
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
4263 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 5:19 pm to
You have an ignorant take on work. 40 hour work week is standard. 32 hour work week is not, nor is a 40% raise. SMH.
Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
4724 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 6:15 pm to
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You have an ignorant take on work. 40 hour work week is standard. 32 hour work week is not, nor is a 40% raise. SMH.




Maybe you are a sheep, and your “standard” is bullshite .
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
130271 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 6:16 pm to
Govt pensions need to go away. Move every govt employee to a 401k only type plan.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 6:22 pm to
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They want defined pensions too and insurance for retirees.



Basically they want to go back to the same deal that destroyed the automakers.

frick the UAW. GM should build a dozen more plants in Mexico and tell them to pound sand.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
30673 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 6:23 pm to
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Millennials are our work force now, they think they should have at least two hours a day to play on social media plus 2-3 breaks and lunch. You have to hire three of them to get the production you used to get out of one person.

This is all nonsense.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
10209 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 6:40 pm to
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Just understand that the world at large doesn't give a frick about you and plan accordingly.


Expect to self rescue.

No problems for most of the generations raised in the early 80s or later are serious enough to warrant a young adult paying attention. There's another thread where a guy described as a first grader, melting a block of lead with his dad's blowtorch with a friend. That's dangerous shite at that age. There used to be consequences, so kids paid more attention. Society has become wussified.

They haven't had potentially life threatening problems, just inconveniences, which means they take nothing seriously.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
17691 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 7:15 pm to
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Govt pensions need to go away. Move every govt employee to a 401k only type plan.

TMRS is a pay-as-you-go system, so the taxpayers aren't on the hook in the future. Instead of a 401K match and Social Security match, the participants just skip both and do TMRS instead.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
17691 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 7:18 pm to
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Expect to self rescue.

I'm a Gen-X latchkey kid. My parents didn't even know where the hell I was most of the time from 1983-1992.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
10209 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 7:29 pm to
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uck the UAW. GM should build a dozen more plants in Mexico and tell them to pound sand.


That's part of the problem with the left. There was a post this afternoon about MX surpassing China as our biggest import market. Yet, the unions just keep insisting it'll all be fine. They refuse to admit that union demands were a big driver of automation, even in the 80s, of auto production. Why is nobody at the counter at a McDonalds, but they have kiosks for you to order from? Increase labor costs, and the business finds ways to decrease labor costs.

My grandfather worked as a supplier for an auto manufacturer in the midwest, and retired from there. Dudes that sweep floors were guaranteed minimum wages far above what I was paid as an IT guy at the time. Your value wasn't based on what you provided, it was based on tenure, etc. Just like teacher's unions. FOAD.

The UAW knows why Toyota, Nissan, etc., opened plants in right to work states (AL, TN, TX, GA), not in Democratic strongholds. They just don't care.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
130271 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 7:32 pm to
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The UAW knows why Toyota, Nissan, etc., opened plants in right to work states (AL, TN, TX, GA), not in Democratic strongholds. They just don't care.


I live near the Toyota plant here. Toyota pays well, and there is no union talk.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
10209 posts
Posted on 9/10/23 at 7:32 pm to
Come home at dark, it's pretty simple!

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latchkey kid


Hell yeah. Although I did see the other extreme of that, where a kid in my elementary school I lived near would get a PBJ wrapped in newspaper left on the doorstep of his townhome after school, because he wasn't allowed in the house if one of the parents weren't home in Japan.

He probably joined the Marines.
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