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re: Authorities investigating death at LSU Phi delt house

Posted on 9/14/17 at 5:00 pm to
Posted by GeauxPack81
Member since Dec 2009
10541 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 5:00 pm to
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If there is one thing that'll make everyone in a chapter want to beat your arse, it's dropping then being a fricking snitch. You'll have a target on your back as long as you're in school, and you better pray you don't run in to anyone at the bars.


You sound like a tough guy
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
21476 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 5:00 pm to
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DKE is a different animal


A Goat breed from my understanding.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44121 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 5:01 pm to
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19 deaths in 7 years. How many would be too many?


One is too many, but not justification to disband the greek system. But the discussion was about it being "rare" or not.

The vast, vast majority of greek organizations in the US have no issues, do great things for the community, and are a net positive.

Group punishment is asinine.

ETA: and by "group punishment" I mean disbanding the greek system. No issues with removing the offending fraternity from campus and banning them for life.

This post was edited on 9/14/17 at 5:03 pm
Posted by GetBackToWork
Member since Dec 2007
6508 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 5:01 pm to
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Yep. The Parade Ground on Saturdays is a perfect example of this. Every weekend it's absolute insanity that didn't exist 3-5+ years ago.


When I was growing up, you would see beer trucks in front of houses. Later as a student, the rules altered the landscape, but much was similar. There was, however, enough sense of decorum or even just pride that kept it in hand.

The parade grounds just looks like a trashy free for all. Cast boy sums it up. Society has just turned trashy, all walks of life. Everyone will lose freedoms and rights when people can't act right and cause events that can't be ignored. That freak student life lady will now act like she was proven right. Tailgating will change.

Ben Wynn seems like yesterday. This event will not go down lightly. The drug use amongst Greeks is already alarming - something of a rarity in the 80's, save for a few outliers. Change is coming. Prayers to the family.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38143 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 5:01 pm to
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You sound like a tough guy


Thanks. I try.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15281 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 5:01 pm to
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If there is one thing that'll make everyone in a chapter want to beat your arse, it's dropping then being a fricking snitch. You'll have a target on your back as long as you're in school, and you better pray you don't run in to anyone at the bars.


What happens if the dropped pledge has bigger and more friends at the bar?

Frat members like to get all tribal and shite. Over a bunch of words and giving each other handjobs.
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
10719 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 5:01 pm to
I stated this opinion recently and pretty much got attacked for it...
But I'm saying it again. Fraternities are a huge waste of time and money. They are all bullshite. Just go and get your education, frick all of that nonsense.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38143 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 5:02 pm to
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Group punishment is asinine.


Group punishment is how the retards who run education punish students from kindergarten through college. Its amazing that those in education are often the most ignorant.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58273 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 5:03 pm to
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How many would be too many?


quote:

Annual United States Road Crash Statistics
Over 37,000 people die in road crashes each year
An additional 2.35 million are injured or disabled
Over 1,600 children under 15 years of age die each year


lets band driving while we are at it. that is over 100 people a day, 4 people per hour, a person every 15 mins.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104143 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 5:03 pm to
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You can still see the DKE burnt into my friends chest, 11 years later. Silly.


Getting your greek letters tattoed on your ankle was a thing for a while when I was an undergrad. Glad I didn't fall for it. I thought it was cool at the time. Now, not so much.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38143 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 5:03 pm to
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What happens if the dropped pledge has bigger and more friends at the bar?

Frat members like to get all tribal and shite. Over a bunch of words and giving each other handjobs.


I can see you were definitely not Greek.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 5:04 pm to
Meh. I imagine for someone going out of state for school, it's the best way to meet new people.

Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58273 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 5:04 pm to
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That is the current rumour. Most frat guys would laugh and hang up.

well it is the Phats we are talkng about.
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
21476 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 5:04 pm to
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Over 37,000 people die in road crashes each year


Well, if there are 3 or more Fraternity Members in the car, then it is a Fraternity Event.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91271 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 5:04 pm to
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Any stats available that show how many non-greek students die from alcohol poisoning?


That's not the way the stats were positioned. They're specifically linked to hazing. I'm sure the amount of fraternity members who die in alcohol related accidents is much higher than this each year, for instance.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44121 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 5:05 pm to
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Getting your greek letters tattoed on your ankle was a thing for a while when I was an undergrad. Glad I didn't fall for it. I thought it was cool at the time. Now, not so much.



Ya, ours was to have our crest tattooed on the inner ankle (so it could be covered by socks for professional appearance reasons). Also glad I didn't do it.
Posted by MaHittaMaHitta
Member since May 2014
3195 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 5:05 pm to
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I was never hazed. We never hazed my entire time in school. Neither did the other fraternities.

Neither was I. The only "hazing" we had to do were non-violent things like guarding the tailgating set up overnight, giving actives rides whenever, cleaning the house. We were never forced to drink alcohol or any of the other absurd other fraternities do. It actually made the pledge class closer and bond in all of these times. That is effective "hazing."
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15281 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 5:06 pm to
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I can see you were definitely not Greek.



Very astute of you.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
12396 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 5:06 pm to
I'm not in Phi Delt so I don't know what they do. But the reason a pledge is usually dropped is because he won't do what actives tell him to do.

So to me it sounds like they were hazing, and the kid didn't want to do it so they dropped him. When he told his parents why he was dropped, his parents threatened to go to LSU and nationals with hazing allegations. So they took him back. Then he had to chug everclear as punishment.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104143 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 5:06 pm to
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That freak student life lady will now act like she was proven right.


Well, she kind of was.
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