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re: ATL - Toddler Left in Car
Posted on 6/19/14 at 12:54 pm to CBLSU316
Posted on 6/19/14 at 12:54 pm to CBLSU316
Tragic. I have a two year old little girl (first day of school was this am). Ever since she began riding with me I point my rear view mirror down so I can see what she's doing (except at night or on interstate), watch her mimic me, etc. Been doing that for two years now. I love watching her reactions to things. Anyways, I don't see how leaving a kid in a car seat is possible, but shite does happen every single day. Very sad.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 12:54 pm to The Third Leg
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I can assure you I'd be taking my own life if I was such a fricking failure that I cooked my firstborn alive in a Hyundia, or whatever the frick that was.
does he have other kids?
Posted on 6/19/14 at 1:00 pm to Topwater Trout
I assumed not, given he had one, why wouldn't he have the other? It's summertime, no school.
I could be ignorantly assuming this.
I could be ignorantly assuming this.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 2:10 pm to The Third Leg
Posted on 6/19/14 at 2:49 pm to okietiger
What a horrible situation. The father was a 2012 'Bama graduate with an MIS degree, married, and looking for a house. Now the child is dead, the father's life is effectively over, and God knows what the wife is thinking. I eat lunch a few times a week right where it happened, and it was weird passing that location today and thinking about what happened yesterday.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 2:58 pm to BROffshoreTigerFan
Don't think so Bro.
A baby becomes the greatest responsibility in your life, especially when it is your first. Anxieties ebb a bit as you have more children and have dealt with the anxiety causing issues time and again. Things like inconsolable crying spells, coughs or perceived respiratory issues, etc.. These are things that keep a baby on your mind while it is in your presence. When those are not occurring, good parents spend their time checking on the baby while it sleeps, feeding, cleaning or showing affection to the baby. It is a constant and keeps the baby in your thoughts at all times of the day and night.
When a loving parent is away from the baby, thoughts go through their mind all day about the baby. Whether mom or dad, they think about getting home and holding, coddling and loving the baby. Doesn't mean they sit and obsess over the child for hours(however, I have known some that did) but that the baby periodically enters their thoughts. Once an hour might be a conservative estimate.
Don't know how many children you have but if you have ever had a baby you would know that you can't hardly be in a work place for an hour without someone asking you "how is the baby? How is mom? Getting much sleep? Etc" Those are just outside influences bringing the baby to your mind independent of your own internal thoughts.
That conclusion is determined by 4 of my own and never, ever,ever having known a person with a baby who wasn't asked about the baby all the dang time or bringing it up themselves. Again, not even considering their own internal and unvoiced thoughts.
A baby becomes the greatest responsibility in your life, especially when it is your first. Anxieties ebb a bit as you have more children and have dealt with the anxiety causing issues time and again. Things like inconsolable crying spells, coughs or perceived respiratory issues, etc.. These are things that keep a baby on your mind while it is in your presence. When those are not occurring, good parents spend their time checking on the baby while it sleeps, feeding, cleaning or showing affection to the baby. It is a constant and keeps the baby in your thoughts at all times of the day and night.
When a loving parent is away from the baby, thoughts go through their mind all day about the baby. Whether mom or dad, they think about getting home and holding, coddling and loving the baby. Doesn't mean they sit and obsess over the child for hours(however, I have known some that did) but that the baby periodically enters their thoughts. Once an hour might be a conservative estimate.
Don't know how many children you have but if you have ever had a baby you would know that you can't hardly be in a work place for an hour without someone asking you "how is the baby? How is mom? Getting much sleep? Etc" Those are just outside influences bringing the baby to your mind independent of your own internal thoughts.
That conclusion is determined by 4 of my own and never, ever,ever having known a person with a baby who wasn't asked about the baby all the dang time or bringing it up themselves. Again, not even considering their own internal and unvoiced thoughts.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 3:07 pm to Dick Leverage
quote:Except for one thing.
Don't think so Bro. A baby becomes the greatest responsibility in your life, especially when it is your first. Anxieties ebb a bit as you have more children and have dealt with the anxiety causing issues time and again. Things like inconsolable crying spells, coughs or perceived respiratory issues, etc.. These are things that keep a baby on your mind while it is in your presence. When those are not occurring, good parents spend their time checking on the baby while it sleeps, feeding, cleaning or showing affection to the baby. It is a constant and keeps the baby in your thoughts at all times of the day and night. When a loving parent is away from the baby, thoughts go through their mind all day about the baby. Whether mom or dad, they think about getting home and holding, coddling and loving the baby. Doesn't mean they sit and obsess over the child for hours(however, I have known some that did) but that the baby periodically enters their thoughts. Once an hour might be a conservative estimate. Don't know how many children you have but if you have ever had a baby you would know that you can't hardly be in a work place for an hour without someone asking you "how is the baby? How is mom? Getting much sleep? Etc" Those are just outside influences bringing the baby to your mind independent of your own internal thoughts. That conclusion is determined by 4 of my own and never, ever,ever having known a person with a baby who wasn't asked about the baby all the dang time or bringing it up themselves. Again, not even considering their own internal and unvoiced thoughts.
You are wrong: it could happen to anyone.
Anyone at all.
Even you.
Thank God that it hasn't yet.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 3:19 pm to Dick Leverage
“Some people think, ‘Okay, I can see forgetting a child for two minutes, but not eight hours.’ What they don’t understand is that the parent in his or her mind has dropped off the baby at day care and thinks the baby is happy and well taken care of. Once that’s in your brain, there is no reason to worry or check on the baby for the rest of the day.”
LINK
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 3:33 pm to PuntBamaPunt
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“Some people think, ‘Okay, I can see forgetting a child for two minutes, but not eight hours.’ What they don’t understand is that the parent in his or her mind has dropped off the baby at day care and thinks the baby is happy and well taken care of. Once that’s in your brain, there is no reason to worry or check on the baby for the rest of the day.”
Thankfully (for something like this) my brain doesn't work that way. If I think "Did I do X" my mind is saying "ohhh i bet you didn't." So I check.
At times, it's gotten bad enough that I develop some sort of check, like jingling my keys after I've locked the door, so I can remember it. It's weird. With a kid, I'd probably just try to have a unique comment or conversation daily I can recall later to assure myself (or i'll compulsively check my car)
Posted on 6/19/14 at 3:58 pm to CBLSU316
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ATL - Toddler Left in Car
This is horrible.
I actually know this guy. He is originally from Tuscaloosa and we used to run in the same circle of friends. He was always a nice guy to be around and would do anything for you. I hadn't seen him in a couple of years. I saw someone post this on facebook and saw he and his wife were living in Georgia now so I guess that's why I hadn't seen him in a while.
Something like this scares me because my wife and I are about to be first time parents in September. You never think it would ever happen to you but you never know. I know that he has to be feeling so much guilt and pain right now. Just a horrible situation to be in.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:20 pm to Pettifogger
quote:I've read a lot of your posts. You seem to be an educated and thoughtful poster. I'm not sure that you have thought this issue through completely, at least not as to the possibility of this being a less than conscious decision/action.
Thankfully (for something like this) my brain doesn't work that way. If I think "Did I do X" my mind is saying "ohhh i bet you didn't." So I check. At times, it's gotten bad enough that I develop some sort of check, like jingling my keys after I've locked the door, so I can remember it. It's weird. With a kid, I'd probably just try to have a unique comment or conversation daily I can recall later to assure myself (or i'll compulsively check my car)
For example, have you ever taken a drive from [Point A] to [Point B] and then thought to yourself, "Wow, I have almost no recollection of actually driving from [Point A] to [Point B]"? I'm not talking about "sleep walking" (or "sleep driving"). I'm talking about making a conscious decision to go somewhere, driving the distance, but having little or no recall of the actual driving that occurred while getting to your destination.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:29 pm to Golfer
Has anybody linked the story Autopilot from reddit no sleep?
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:32 pm to Salviati
What makes me sick is imagine what the child was thinking? I'm sure he/she was panicking strapped into a car seat and surely screaming for help. At 2, my son was pretty verbal. Was it discussed if the child was rear facing or not? Most of these happen with rear facing babies
I will kiss my kids way more then I usually do tonight.
Prayer for the father, the kid he lost, and their families. I really don't think this was done on purpose.
I will kiss my kids way more then I usually do tonight.
Prayer for the father, the kid he lost, and their families. I really don't think this was done on purpose.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:34 pm to RollTide MJ
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I actually know this guy
same here.
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He was always a nice guy to be around and would do anything for you.
absolutely.
makes me sick to my stomach. I've been sick since I read about it this morning. I have a one-year old so it's really hit me hard. I cannot imagine what he's going through and pray for him and his family so much.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:35 pm to vuvuzela
I wish I could un-know this.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:37 pm to Salviati
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I've read a lot of your posts. You seem to be an educated and thoughtful poster. I'm not sure that you have thought this issue through completely, at least not as to the possibility of this being a less than conscious decision/action.
For example, have you ever taken a drive from [Point A] to [Point B] and then thought to yourself, "Wow, I have almost no recollection of actually driving from [Point A] to [Point B]"? I'm not talking about "sleep walking" (or "sleep driving"). I'm talking about making a conscious decision to go somewhere, driving the distance, but having little or no recall of the actual driving that occurred while getting to your destination.
Well, thanks. I've talked a lot in this thread, and not because I think I know the answers to this stuff, I just find this subject particularly interesting. I don't think I'm immune to causing something tragic, I just have to hope that the little devices I use for everyday stuff will work in my scenarios.
But I don't disagree with what you're saying. I think this is a tough situation to take a position on. Theoretically, I can see how any of us could, through our own negligence, make this mistake. The huge majority of us will not.
I know nobody in here is saying "It could happen to you" with the intention of "making it ok." But I think most can appreciate the thin line between the warning "it could be you" and the excuse "it could happen to anyone." That's basically what I'm getting at.
As for your example, sure I get it. I think most of us do that. Far fewer will leave our kids in the car, and very few people experience this situation.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:38 pm to CarterWilson717
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What makes me sick is imagine what the child was thinking? I'm sure he/she was panicking strapped into a car seat and surely screaming for help. At 2, my son was pretty verbal. Was it discussed if the child was rear facing or not? Most of these happen with rear facing babies
That stuff horrifies me with any tragedy, even adults or pets. The idea that a child would be waiting for someone to help them that wouldn't come just crushes me.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 5:20 pm to PuntBamaPunt
Ever since my son was born, one of my OCD things I do when closing the car door is to give a quick look over in the cabin of the car, including the car seat. This is what I would suggest to any parent out there to avoid something tragic like this.
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