re: At least 8 dead and many injured at Astroworld Travis Scott concert

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Would the company hired to provide security not shoulder some of the blame legally if their security was overwhelmed

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Security is often limited by the circumstances the concert organizers have left them in. These large festival concerts have porous perimeters that are often times too unwieldy to properly manage.

That being said, it will also depend on what assurances and expectations the security company gave the concert organizers. If they over-stated their ability to control such a larger crowd, that's on them.

Thank you, I imagine a lot of this will come down to contract details. Eight people died, this isn’t just going to go away

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Unfortunately this happens when the venues don’t adequately plan for this kind of an event

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This one differs though, you had so many fence crashers that the crowd couldn't be controlled.

The environment was never under control. I'm not sure how you plan for illegal entry en masse.

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Why are we acting like trampling events haven't been a fact of life always?

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Short memories maybe?

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I love reading all this shite on here from idiots

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Some dudes on the 1st couple of pages really wants this to be a black people issue.

Since that has been shown not to be the the case, those posters are no longer posting in this thread. Funny how that works.

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Security is often limited by the circumstances the concert organizers have left them in. These large festival concerts have porous perimeters that are often times too unwieldy to properly manage.

That being said, it will also depend on what assurances and expectations the security company gave the concert organizers. If they over-stated their ability to control such a larger crowd, that's on them.

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yeah, there's a lot of moving parts here. It's not all going to fall on one entity's shoulders. Usually security companies are contracted out to do just the very basics of security. 95% of the staff are no more than hourly labor who answered an ad off Craigslist. Any of the more experienced security staff are almost always posted up near the main stage(s). In most occassions, no 1 "security" company can fulfill all staffing needs, so there are multiple security companies all working various aspects of a festival. Some are on perimeter duty, perhaps another one is only working stages, and a 3rd may be responsible for just gates and access points. And usually there's yet another security company that's been contracted to do nothing but just coordinate the other security companies and deployment schedules.

There are so many variables. The site, the layout, the temporary perimeter layout for traffic control, blowout gates, etc, etc....

There's a production company, a security company, consultant, fire code enforcement, emergency planners, and a whole host of people and personnel that will be sued here. Insurance companies are going to fight this to the bitter end

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Did you see the fence jumping vids?

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the white kids bought tickets & didn’t have to jump over a fence

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What does that have to do with the demographics

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it doesn’t. they were a tiny % of all the people at the festival

Word from family member in medical field here is fentanyl for the ones in the hospital.

at least one of the victims was 15 years old. Jesus.