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re: Ascension bans Kratom leaf
Posted on 8/20/22 at 11:13 am to biglego
Posted on 8/20/22 at 11:13 am to biglego
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Tell me where to get this magical stuff. All the Kratom I’ve had did absolutely nothing.
The internet.
Apparently the good stuff is like taking 5 or 6 10mg Vicodin + it has antidepressant effects.
Used habitually it becomes a ball-and-chain like all the rest as the human body will always seek equilibrium, and subsequently down-regulate receptors towards that end.
This post was edited on 8/20/22 at 11:15 am
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 12:12 pm to BeepNode
Portugal decriminalized very drug and they are a lot safer, less violent country than the US
Posted on 8/20/22 at 12:32 pm to Rust Cohle
Ban something that is effective and replace it with something deadly. Makes sense.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 12:39 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Regardless of the item, banning something on a Parish basis is retarded.
Yes but it’s no different than wet or dry counties. It’s not unprecedented. Although it is dumb.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 1:19 pm to little billy
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Not commenting on its legality but I have met a few people who got addicted to kratom. As mentioned previously I've heard the withdrawals are pretty bad actually
My ex uses Kratom. She used to smoke weed constantly and take Adderall daily. Now she doesn't use either. And if she doesn't have Kratom, for whatever reason, she doesn't suffer from withdrawals. She's definitely not addicted to Kratom either.
I guess she's the only person I know that takes the stuff but really seems like it's no more harmful than drinking coffee.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 2:28 pm to noonan
I believe you and the other positive anecdotes. Fwiw I think it should be legal. Nonetheless the potential for abuse and dependency does exist. My comment was based on a drug addict that told me his withdrawals from Kratom were awful. He was taking obscene dosages to counter his tolerance though.
This post was edited on 8/20/22 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 8/20/22 at 5:59 pm to The Boat
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Yes but it’s no different than wet or dry counties. It’s not unprecedented. Although it is dumb.
I grew up in a dry county. Extremely dumb.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 6:25 pm to bootycricket1
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Portugal decriminalized very drug and they are a lot safer, less violent country than the US
The cultures and demographics of Portugal vs the US might as well be two different planets
Posted on 8/20/22 at 6:26 pm to Ed Osteen
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The cultures and demographics of Portugal vs the US might as well be two different planets
I am for full legalization, but this is correct. ITs a gamble here.
There definitely would be more issues than abroad.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 7:03 pm to biglego
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I highly doubt anyone is thinking “damn, kratom is illegal now in ascension parish so I guess it’s heroin for me”
Posted on 8/20/22 at 7:21 pm to bootycricket1
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Portugal decriminalized very drug and they are a lot safer, less violent country than the US
West coast cities with liberal DAs have done the same and it’s not working out as well.
Anyway, I’d like to try some good kratom. If the stuff on the internet is better than the stuff at the vape stores, does anyone have a link? A certain brand or something to look for when ordering?
Posted on 8/20/22 at 7:33 pm to noonan
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My ex uses Kratom. She used to smoke weed constantly and take Adderall daily. Now she doesn't use either. And if she doesn't have Kratom, for whatever reason, she doesn't suffer from withdrawals. She's definitely not addicted to Kratom either. I guess she's the only person I know that takes the stuff but really seems like it's no more harmful than drinking coffee.
I agree that it ought to be legal for adult consumption, and is great for keeping people off
Harder drugs, but it can certainly be more harmful than coffee: in some users it can severely elevate GGT and other liver enzymes, but then again so can alcohol.
Withdrawals can be rough, including severe restless legs, insomnia, myalgias/arthralgias/malaise, diarrhea, etc much like opioid withdrawal minus the vomiting(as in heroin W/D). It is certainly much milder than alcohol e.g. no life-threatening seizures, etc.
It should absolutely be legal, but coffee it ain’t.
This post was edited on 8/20/22 at 7:33 pm
Posted on 8/20/22 at 7:35 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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There definitely would be more issues than abroad.
There are some pretty interesting cases of alcohol being banned and then later allowed already in the US. Tribal situations come to mind. Up here there wasn’t really a change in alcohol consumption after it was allowed to be sold on tribal land. All that changed was tax revenue.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 7:45 pm to Abstract Queso Dip
Amen bro. Shrooms aka grocery’s as well call them are 100 times better than kratom.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 7:52 pm to Warfox
I take kratom daily.
There’s 2 major kinds.
The high dollar stuff can frick you up, like $40 for 5 pills. It’s bad stuff. Dope fiends get hooked on that stuff.
The other kind, which I take, is 120 pills for $18. It gives me a little pep in the morning like coffee.
It sucks it gets all wrapped into one group.
There’s 2 major kinds.
The high dollar stuff can frick you up, like $40 for 5 pills. It’s bad stuff. Dope fiends get hooked on that stuff.
The other kind, which I take, is 120 pills for $18. It gives me a little pep in the morning like coffee.
It sucks it gets all wrapped into one group.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 8:27 pm to thermal9221
Order mines online there are different strains that are slightly different then each other. most popular is green maeng da. There's red green white and yellow.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 8:32 pm to Rust Cohle
You are correct but it’s a slippery slope for addicts. It’s pretty easy to build up a dependency where you feel like shite for 3 weeks and have severe withdrawals. If you are an addict. Don’t even try it. You don’t have the discipline to maintain and it will take you down. Trust me. It was also wreak havoc on your liver. I’m not saying ban it. Just a warning. It’s trash.
Posted on 8/20/22 at 9:08 pm to WG_Dawg
Kratom used appropriately, much like everything else, is one of the most beneficial medicines for anxiety/depression I've ever used and I've tried a lot. Less is more with Kratom
Posted on 8/20/22 at 11:00 pm to Rust Cohle
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For the last 300 years we have worked more than ever.
Hard to average more work hours when you died at 30 years old from a tooth ache.
What was the average lifespan during these "easier" times you speak of?
Posted on 8/21/22 at 2:30 am to Rust Cohle
You’d be amazed how many people enter into drug treatment facilities taking only kratom, in amounts ranging up to $300-$500 per day.
They will be just as broke as a heroin addict, pawning their stuff and everybody else’s to buy gas station pills (kratom).
Here is the more important issue: no health insurance company will cover drug treatment if the client is using kratom exclusively.
They will be just as broke as a heroin addict, pawning their stuff and everybody else’s to buy gas station pills (kratom).
Here is the more important issue: no health insurance company will cover drug treatment if the client is using kratom exclusively.
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