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re: Arguing white privilege, should you really engage?

Posted on 10/3/16 at 10:58 am to
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37671 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 10:58 am to
I guess I should have made a longer post to explicitly proof my point from your type of objection. Yes, a poorer person with relatively less educational opportunities and family structure is less advantaged than a person with supportive parents and easier access to education (whether we're talking about a poor black kid from inner city Detroit or a poor white kid from West Virginia).

But they are still much more advantaged than children in other parts of the world and certainly more advantaged than almost all people to have ever lived. This shouldn't justify an attitude of indifference from those of us with more, but it should deflate the sense of victimization or powerlessness in those with less affluence.
Posted by Carolina Tide
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2013
5747 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 11:18 am to
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JMO. White privilege exists in the same way that certain types of privilege exist for people that are more attractive, born more wealthy, born women (note education data over the last 20 years, esp high school and college graduation among other things), born in the United States instead of Somalia or some other thing. But the thing I find annoying is how myopic most of the people stuck on white privilege are. We live in the best time of human history period. Our medical and educational opportunities are astonishingly better than what our great grandparents could have imagined. For anyone in our country (assuming you were not born seriously handicapped and are not currently wrongfully imprisoned) to view themselves as actually disadvantaged misses almost any understanding of human history or the status of most humans in the world today.



:kiege:


One of the reasons why I really don't support BLM or constantly use the "white privilege" excuse is that I'm tired of hearing how oppressed I am due to the color of my skin. Have I faced racial injustices in the past? Yes. Will I continue to face it in my lifetime? More than likely. However I'm not going to let anyone (black or white) tell me how much I'm worth in this country.

Black people have had the shite end of the stick for centuries, and will probably continue For the foreseeable future. However there have been thousands of successful AA throughout the entire history of the USA, from the free blacks and Creoles in New Orleans and across the south in the 1800's who even owned slaves, to the successful black owners and entrepreneurs during the Harlem Rennisance during the height of Jim Crow, to all the Black Millionaires who live in cities like Atlanta and Los Angeles today.

Now dos these people face hardship and discrimination? Absolutely, but they were able to power through all of this seemingly insurmountable adversity and actually made a name for themselves, oftentimes after starting from nothing, and some were even slaves themselves.

So if all of these people could live a successful life despite living in one of the darkest periods of American history, then I sure as shite can, as can any black person in America (many already have). Will we face adversity and blantent injustice? Yes, just like we would in any country in the world. But if you didn't have to deal with adversity then everyone would be rich.
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12224 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 4:19 pm to
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Really? You don't think there's white privilege in Africa? That its black privilege?




I take it you have never been to Africa?
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 4:34 pm to
Here's a quick video explaining why it's fruitless, and giving an effective strategy in case you wanna try anyway: LINK
Posted by Mr. Shake
The Sickbed of Cuchulainn
Member since Dec 2009
817 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 5:34 pm to
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Just tell them yes it's awesome! I thank god everyday I'm a fit white attractive male!


I like to say "I have checked my privilege. It's real, and it's spectacular". Then, stroll away whistling the Andy Griffith theme.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 5:40 pm to
only with people I know.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
15292 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 6:03 pm to
In America there is a Social Privilege

Those in the top % are allowed to do and get away with much more than the middle and poor can.

The Stanford swimmer is the perfect example, as well as the Kid in Texas.

It's not cause he's White, it's because his parents have cash, went to Stanford, and this judge also has cash and went to Stanford. They do like to take care of their own.

OJ Simpson knows all about social privileges, it enabled him to get away with Murder. He was able to pay for the dream team.

People equate it to Skin color, and it's about $$$$, not skin color. You have the cash, you have power(muscle), and when needed, you can flex it to get out of, or get what u want.

I knew kids who were arrested on same offense, in same car, and 1 got Years of probation, other got a hand shake from DA and his father passed a check for court costs. Both White, one middle class, other, his parents had cash.

Same DA, 2 different out comes when it was time for a deal. Kid who was middle, told me, a fine was never going to happen, he was doing a month or years of probation and community service.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 7:03 pm to
I agree buddy.
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