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re: Are we soft now because our ancestors were tough?
Posted on 2/25/16 at 8:00 am to Tiger1242
Posted on 2/25/16 at 8:00 am to Tiger1242
The "Greek" empire you speak of, which was really Macedonian, collapsed because it grew too large too quickly (the empire collapsed in very short order after Alexander's death).
In that sense, your interpretation is backwards -- it was military campaigning without any concern for institutional consolidation that ultimately led to the empire's short lifespan.
On a related note, it is worth pointing out that the Roman conquest of the Hellenstic world occurred approximately 200 years after Alexander's death. It isn't like one thing led directly to the other ...
This is why we need to invest MORE in humanities education -- this watered down historical narrative you've concocted has led to exactly the wrong conclusion.
/rant
In that sense, your interpretation is backwards -- it was military campaigning without any concern for institutional consolidation that ultimately led to the empire's short lifespan.
On a related note, it is worth pointing out that the Roman conquest of the Hellenstic world occurred approximately 200 years after Alexander's death. It isn't like one thing led directly to the other ...
This is why we need to invest MORE in humanities education -- this watered down historical narrative you've concocted has led to exactly the wrong conclusion.
/rant
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Posted on 2/25/16 at 8:08 am to Tiger1242
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Are we weak because people born in the early/mid 1900's were strong? Is a strong civilization going to come a long and beat us soon because we aren't mentally tough now?
It's happening now; at the hands of the barbarian hoardes of Islam and the roaving masses of hominid locusts travelling northward from South and Central America.
This post was edited on 2/25/16 at 8:09 am
Posted on 2/25/16 at 8:12 am to Tiger1242
I say the little gamer nerd that flies the drone with bomb attached is tough enough to take on the toughest man in the world.
quote:No, people will always do as little as possible to survive, right now sitting upright isn't even necessary for survival for most of the people on earth.
Are we weak because people born in the early/mid 1900's were strong?
Posted on 2/25/16 at 8:19 am to ManBearTiger
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It's happening now; at the hands of the barbarian hoardes of Islam and the roaving masses of hominid locusts travelling northward from South and Central America.
1) Illegal immigration has actually declined since 2007. Bet you didn't realize that.
2) The US has taken relatively few muslim asylum seekers in comparison to European countries with much smaller populations.
3) Stop scapegoating foreigners.
Posted on 2/25/16 at 8:23 am to TxTiger82
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The "Greek" empire you speak of, which was really Macedonian, collapsed because it grew too large too quickly (the empire collapsed in very short order after Alexander's death).
I was talking more about the Pelloponesian wars between Athens and Sparta strengthening both of them into powers. Alexander (or really his father) conquered an already weakened Greece IMO. I agree he stretched himself too thin though
Posted on 2/25/16 at 8:30 am to TxTiger82
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1) Illegal immigration has actually declined since 2007. Bet you didn't realize that.
Oh really? So we're registering and tracking who is here illegally? Seems like a rock solid figure to take at face value. Always amazed that folks are actually stupid enough to buy that we have accurate numbers on how many illegals are here... Do they text the census bureau when they cross the border for a free taco at Jack in the Box?
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2) The US has taken relatively few muslim asylum seekers in comparison to European countries with much smaller populations.
SO what? How has it worked out for those countries? Not well? Then what's your point?
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3) Stop scapegoating foreigners.
I'm no more scapegoating foreigners than a doctor is scapegoating cancer when he diagnoses a patient with Leukemia.
Stop burying your head in the sand.
Posted on 2/25/16 at 8:34 am to Tiger1242
quote:Umm, no. Athens was the power prior to the war. After the war, Athens was devastated and the Spartans took control of the region. The Peloponnesian War did nothing but weaken Athens.
I was talking more about the Pelloponesian wars between Athens and Sparta strengthening both of them into powers.
I would read some Thucydides.
Posted on 2/25/16 at 8:40 am to dbeck
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A guy who came to Fight Club for the first time, his arse was a wad of cookie dough. After a few weeks, he was carved out of wood.
Posted on 2/25/16 at 8:57 am to VermilionTiger
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Weak because of Obama
The fact we elected him shows we were weak before him.
Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:01 am to terd ferguson
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I agree that eugenics is the only viable solution here.
Eugenics with voluntary participants would be fricking awesome.
I always bring this up in these threads, but Michael Phelps/Missy Franklin - Lebron/Candace Parker, Bo Jackson/Serena Williams, etc.
I wish we could make super babies and train them from birth to be Navy SEALS - and obviously allow them to opt out or their parents to pull them out. I'm talking like a sports academy but instead of sports, they focus on physical fitness, breath holding, marksmanship, hand-to-hand combat, etc. as well as other studies.
Lets bring back motherfrickin' Sparta. (without the baby killing and forced participation)
Imagine a Bo Jackson/Serena Williams offspring trained from birth to dominate at those things.
Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:03 am to MetArl15
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Umm, no. Athens was the power prior to the war. After the war, Athens was devastated and the Spartans took control of the region. The Peloponnesian War did nothing but weaken Athens.
Yeah, and I don't even think it helped Sparta out too much. They won, but never had the manpower to hold their winnings and didn't Thebes defeat Sparta not too long after this? It's been a while since I looked at this.
Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:08 am to Tiger1242
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Are we weak because people born in the early/mid 1900's were strong? Is a strong civilization going to come a long and beat us soon because we aren't mentally tough now?
If you're talking about individual men being physically soft, I'd think it's obvious our modern technology is the reason.
If you're talking about how seemingly vulnerable so many people are--allergies for example--maybe it's Bc modern medicine and vaccines keep weaker folk alive who previously wouldn't have reproduced.
Europe is so soft Bc two world wars decimated two generations of their young men. Left a vacuum, and extreme liberalism is doing the rest to literally welcome its invaders.
Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:10 am to Tiger1242
Sonic in Slidell?
This post was edited on 7/25/16 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:12 am to TheCaterpillar
quote:Yeah, a non buoyant SEAL with a fricked up hip that bitched at the umpire all day in a close battle.
Imagine a Bo Jackson/Serena Williams offspring trained from birth to dominate at those things.
Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:21 am to Tiger1242
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I was talking more about the Pelloponesian wars between Athens and Sparta strengthening both of them into powers. Alexander (or really his father) conquered an already weakened Greece IMO. I agree he stretched himself too thin though
Well then there is a VERY tenuous connection between their decline and the Roman conquest. We're talking centuries here.
Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:22 am to tigerfoot
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Yeah, a non buoyant SEAL with a fricked up hip that bitched at the umpire all day in a close battle.
You get my point.
We can have Phelps/Franklin babies be SEALS and Bo/Serena babies be Rangers...
Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:25 am to terd ferguson
quote:I buttfrick my girlfriend. Does that count?
And they were buttfrickers. Now look what's happening here... buttfrickers everywhere. A civilization becomes strong and conquers its enemies, then following generations begin buttfricking each other, then the strong civilization collapses.
Queers are causing this.
Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:26 am to ManBearTiger
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Oh really? So we're registering and tracking who is here illegally? Seems like a rock solid figure to take at face value. Always amazed that folks are actually stupid enough to buy that we have accurate numbers on how many illegals are here... Do they text the census bureau when they cross the border for a free taco at Jack in the Box?
Given our system of measurement, the numbers have declined. The reason is that fewer want to come to post-recession America. You can choose to believe it or not, doesn't make a difference to me.
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SO what? How has it worked out for those countries? Not well? Then what's your point?
The point is that there are very few Muslim refugees in the U.S. It is not really an issue, you guys are making mountains out of molehills.
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I'm no more scapegoating foreigners
Well according to you, the problem with our country is Latinos and Muslims. In fact, the problems are economic in nature and run much deeper than that. We're looking at a situation in which most of the "gains" in the post-recession era have gone to the wealthiest individuals in society. In essence, fewer and fewer people share a slice of the American pie. THAT'S the problem. Has almost nothing to do with immigrants.
Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:36 am to tigerfoot
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right now sitting upright isn't even necessary for survival for most of the people on earth.
True and pretty fricked up.
Approaching 7 Billion on Earth.
One of the "Laws" on the Georgia Guide Stone is "Keep World population below 500 Million".
Posted on 2/25/16 at 11:33 am to Hog on the Hill
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buttfrick my girlfriend. Does that count?
I buttfrick your girlfriend too. Yes it counts.
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