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re: Are we ignoring the monuments?

Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:17 am to
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:17 am to
How?
Posted by 10888bge
H-Town
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:32 am to
This is about taking down a monument erected in honor of white supremacists. This is not about "Wasting Money".
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:33 am to
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And it's about it being a waste of money when there are myriad real problems that derseve attention and funding.



Lol. Yeah, that's why everyone here is all worked up.


What if they raise private funds to remove the statues? Then, would everyone be okay with their removal?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:35 am to
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This is not about "Wasting Money".


Is the removal of these monuments happening for free?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:35 am to
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What if they raise private funds to remove the statues? Then, would everyone be okay with their removal?


Right after a vote open to the public took place. Until then, this is all a bunch of bullshite.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:38 am to
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Right after a vote open to the public took place. Until then, this is all a bunch of bullshite.


When you say the public, do you mean the general public, or only Orleans Parish/Nola city residents?

And you never said of you would be in favor of removal using private funds after a vote.
This post was edited on 4/26/17 at 11:39 am
Posted by 10888bge
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:38 am to
You lose the "it's about heritage" argument so you pivot to the "wasting money" argument. Anything to keep the old racist memorabilia around huh?
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This post was edited on 4/26/17 at 11:39 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:39 am to
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When you say the public, do you mean the general public, or only Orleans Parish/Nola city residents?


Anything more than we have now.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:39 am to
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You lose the "it's about heritage" argument so you pivot to the "wating money" argument. Anything to keep the old racist memorabilla around huh?


I haven't lost any argument. Not sure who you're confusing me with. Why are you dodging my question?
Posted by LongueCarabine
Pointe Aux Pins, LA
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:44 am to
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Life is great


Living that welfare dream, eh?
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:45 am to
You don't think it's fricked up that the mayor decided to start pulling down public monuments in the middle of the night using city employees (firefighters) and without letting the citizens of NOLA vote on whether or not to remove them?

I'd say that's a pretty valid argument for some people... personally I just want them left up bc I'm a racist.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25239 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:46 am to
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When you say the public, do you mean the general public, or only Orleans Parish/Nola city residents?


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Anything more than we have now.


So you're willing to accept that criteria. Do you really think a majority of residents in either Orleans parish or the city limits, would vote to keep the statues? If so, you're out of your mind. Most of the anger is coming from people outside of New Orleans.

But why is that? Because Nola is known worldwide as one of the best Southern cities. People come from all over the world to visit. And that city is no longer celebrating it's Confederate heritage, but is ashamed of it.
Posted by LongueCarabine
Pointe Aux Pins, LA
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:47 am to
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False narrative


You mean you're too stupid to understand what he's saying.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:48 am to
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Do you really think a majority of residents in either Orleans parish or the city limits, would vote to keep the statues?


Honestly, yes.

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If so, you're out of your mind.


Based on what?

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Most of the anger is coming from people outside of New Orleans.



It's a big issue getting national attention. That's not surprising.



Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25239 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:49 am to
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You don't think it's fricked up that the mayor decided to start pulling down public monuments in the middle of the night using city employees (firefighters) and without letting the citizens of NOLA vote on whether or not to remove them?



It had an inscription celebrating white supremacy. They hid it for awhile. But even 20+ years ago, they knew that statue was atrocious.
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:50 am to
That didn't answer the question.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:50 am to
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It had an inscription celebrating white supremacy. They hid it for awhile. But even 20+ years ago, they knew that statue was atrocious.



For Christ sake, thats not the fricking point
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:50 am to
You are a fool.
This is about scoring political points with race baiters and half-moon trying to secure a place in Hillary's failed administration.

Some old statues and monuments didn't bother or even come across the radar of a vast majority of the people, and those it did were oversensitive any way.

When people are being murdered daily for nothing, when the potholes on the streets can swallow cars, when corruption runs rife...You are really gonna bullshite me that some old pieces of stone and metal are top priorities?

Posted by 10888bge
H-Town
Member since Aug 2011
8421 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:50 am to
To answer your question, of course it isn't free. The question you posed makes no mention of worth. There is inherent worth to removing a symbol of hate and racism. Unless you like, or are apathetic to, a monument that promotes an act of hatred and racial violence.

P.S. sorry for getting you mixed up with Fr33. At work and shifting between screens and shipping.
This post was edited on 4/26/17 at 11:52 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:51 am to
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To answer your question, of course it isn't free. The question you posed makes no mention of worth. There is inherent worth to removing a symbol of hate and racism. Unless you like, or are apathetic to, a monument that promotes an act of hatred and racial violence.


Is that "inherent worth" more valuable than fixing actual problems of today?
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